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Comment Re:A win for freedom (Score 1) 1330

I guess that shortly Islamic owned businesses will be free to deny service to Jews.

I'm actually waiting for this. I remember recently that some lawmakers in the South (Texas maybe) made a law that let religious institutions do X. They then acted shocked that an Islamic organization was using the law. Apparently, they thought that "religious institutions" meant only "Christian institutions." Once an Islamic organization used it, they turned from supporters of the law to opponents. (I wish I could remember the details. Anyone?)

I can see those in favor of the Hobby Lobby verdict reacting the same if an Islamic organization declares that it is their religious belief that all female employees must wear burkas while at work.

Comment Re:A win for freedom (Score 1) 1330

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court retroactively turned it into being about abortificants. Because Hobby Lobby (really, the owners) believe that these drugs are abortificants, then they "are" abortificants as far as the case goes and therefore Hobby Lobby can't be compelled to provide them.

The slippery slope here just had a ton of grease applied to it. All a "closely held corporation" (90% of all corporations) needs to do is "believe" that X is true and the government will need to act as if that is true regardless of the facts. Is a company dumping toxic waste in rivers? They hold a religious belief that said waste will be removed by God. Is a company polluting the air? They hold a religious belief that says those chemicals won't hurt anyone. Is a company firing all non-heterosexual employees? They hold a religious belief that those employees are evil sinners.

Comment Re:A win for freedom (Score 1) 1330

Or because you go to the "wrong Church." Or because you (*shudder*) don't go to Church at all!

Or perhaps you won't be fired but will merely be "incentivized" to attend Church. All employees who attend Church (the "correct" Church) will receive their annual raises. Also, no promotions may be issued to employees who don't attend. It's not discrimination, it's "religious freedom!"

Comment Re:A win for freedom (Score 4, Insightful) 1330

And one of those types are IUDs. My wife has one of those to regulate endometriosis which can be quite painful to deal with. Her doctors recommended using it instead of the normal birth control pills (which she has tried in the past) and it works. The fact that this works as birth control is a side benefit. (We already have 2 kids and don't want/can't afford any more.) However, this ruling would give an employer the right to say "we object to this because of 'religious reasons' so we're not going to cover it in your employer provided health care." Then, if we wanted this device to manage my wife's medical condition, we'd be forced to pay full cost out of pocket.

However, if I needed "little blue pills" and was employed at Hobby Lobby, they would be more than happy to provide them to me. They also see nothing wrong in investing in the contraception companies in their 401K. Apparently, making money off of "godless abortion pills" is perfectly fine religiously.

Comment Re:Supreme Court did *not* say corps are people .. (Score 1) 1330

The way to prevent their resources being used for things they disagree with is to lobby for political change, just like any other individual.

Hobby Lobby's owners find it religiously objectionable to provide health care to its female employees that includes birth control. However, they apparently have no religious objections to investing 401K money in companies that make birth control. Making money off birth control = religiously fine. Providing access to birth control = sinful and must be stopped!

Comment Re:Gee Catholic judges (Score 0) 1330

You and the parent both fail to realise that the laws trump your religions. If their is a conflict between the 2 the law always takes precedent. Claiming your invisible sky-daddy wants or doesn't want something is irrelevant.

You're just so full of wrong here.

First, you mean precedence, not precedent.
Second, the SCOTUS just saw it my way.

So, you can go suck a bag full of dicks.

LK

Comment Re:KKKonservatism at its finest. (Score 1) 1330

how is the poster a moron?

I can't say for certain how he or she became a moron but the idiocy he or she is displaying is how I know that he or she is a moron.

Five years ago you would never think a corporation had a right to unlimited political spending in the name of the right of free speech of a corporation.

I argued that exact position before McCain-Feingold became law. If each of the people who own a corporation has the right to free speech, it's unthinkable that when they work together they somehow lose that right.

Last year you would not have thought Hobby Lobby could prevent it's employees from getting their Federally guaranteed earned health benefits in the name of a corporation's religious inclination.

1. No one is prevented from getting anything. Every Hobby Lobby employee who can get a doctor to prescribe birth control pills can still get them. Hobby Lobby just won't be forced to pay for it.
2. Yes, I not only thought but I hoped that would be the case when the issue was decided by the SCOTUS.

It really is just a few months at this rate before they vote.

Yeah, I see why you posted anonymously. If you had used your name, in a year, I would have waited to see you post and then replied to remind you what a fucking moron you are.

It's not going to happen. Ever.

What's to stop it?

The fact that to be able to have the right to vote, one must be a citizen and in order to be a citizen one must be a human being.

LK

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