They have a stupid lawyer as new major that has zero understanding of IT, but is in bed with Microsoft. That is what is going on there. The "stupid" is because he makes claims without a shred of evidence and expects them to be believed. Even people from his own party in the city council are calling him a moron (in more polite, but no less clear terms).

I have a number from Germany: 1 reported case of a (pair of) strangers doing it to a woman last year, and that is the one case I know. Now, there may be other cases, but this case was not in any way remarkable, yet it made the national news. That is a very strong indicator that this basically never happens. The only other case I know is 25 years back when some strip-clubs did it to customers. And that is with following the news daily. Seriously, getting seriously harmed or killed on the way to or from the bar is much, much more likely and that is not considered a relevant risk by most people.

This is all about creating fear. The "drug rapist" just the same as the "terrorist", and no, ordinary people do not think in overall damage, just in damage to them.

Once people are in fear, they are easily controlled and directed in as desired as they are not rational anymore.

I maintain: This is an exceedingly stupid idea. The harm done by false positives will vastly outstrip any caught would-be rapist, because a) there are almost none that use this method and b) how are you going to identify the person that put the stuff in the drink? The fingernails certainly will not do that.

Nonsense. You assume a rational actor. Rational people either are not criminals or do not get caught. Rapists are the very definition of irrational and hence the law has absolutely no value in preventing rape. It can lead to more murders though, when a rapist recovers some level of sanity and tries to hide the crime. IN particular, the death penalty will do wonders for motivation in that direction, as they will not have anything to lose at that point.

Doe the word "oversensitive" mean anything to you? If form becomes more important than content, all is lost anyways as only idiots will participate in the "discussion"/

Neo-Feminist standard tactics: All men are savages. Because looking at actual facts would expose them for the hate-preachers and frauds they are.

Yes, indeed. Completely unethical fear-mongers all around that blow irrelevant risks all out of proportion, and countless stupid sheep that fall for that. Truly a sad state of affairs.

Mods seem to be stupid today. This is definitely insightful. Of course it is not an instruction, merely pointing out that the problem is not data-rape drugs.

Full authenticated recording of her giving consent and full authenticated recording of the act or she does not get any. Seriously, with it being this easy to successfully make false rape claims, it may be time to give up on women altogether.

Simple: They are not. This is profiteering from irrational fears.

This person is an MD and knows all that. The labs of course will not run meaningless tests. If he "says 1 case in 14 years", you better believe that he knows what he is talking about.

That said, I completely agree that the alcohol is more of a problem, and that this may well increase risky behavior.

I am sure they can test for that too.

The thing is that these cases are so rare they are mostly an urban myth. Yes, they do happen, but it is far more likely to be run over by a car on the way to or from the bar. Getting drugged by way of your drink is _not_ a relevant risk, just like getting killed by a terrorist or "stranger danger" are not relevant risks. They merely get this attention because some people are using the idea to manipulate people.

Whit what they do to those "presumed innocent" in sexual cases these days, that could get really expensive.

Threatening punishment, regardless of magnitude, has no effect here. There people are already deranged. "The law" is completely unable to solve these kinds of problems. It can make things worse though. Example: People that are afraid they will rape some child but have not done so (yet), are unable to get help as the law stupidly requires doctors to report them. The law is not a prevention tool. It is about revenge, and that is not helping the victims one bit in most cases.