Comment Undoing mod (Score 1) 225
The buggy Slashdot mod system made me mod "overrated" by accident.
This post will undo it.
The buggy Slashdot mod system made me mod "overrated" by accident.
This post will undo it.
Might I add, it's good to have a conversation on slashdot with a total stranger with your manners. Most here simply throw bricks at others.
I'm glad you you liked the converstation. However, I occasionally fall into obsessive internet arguments like this:
http://xkcd.com/386/
Gradually, I am improving, but occasionally I have a relapse.
I think we simply have a different definition of "work". Work, in my mind, isn't a noun, it's a verb. You are correct in what you said about union laws and that. However, I don't understand: "So striking is 'having the cake and eating it too'." If job=cake, then eating=?
I used that proverb in a very general sense. Maybe too general. What I meant is that by striking, you withhold your productive power, but because of labor laws, the company is forbidden from replacing you. So you get to refuse a job condition you didn't like, but without having to find another job. The end result is that you get a raise for little effort.
I am not saying that unions are evil; I am just saying that they are not angels, and there needs to be some moderation when designing labor laws otherwise you ruin the industry.
Also, if you mod a comment here, then commenting in that thread yourself, removes the mod.
This is what I meant. I accidentally modded you flamebait, then removed that mod by commenting in the article.
They do work, they get paid for part of the value of their work (if they got paid the full value of their work, it wouldn't be profitable for their employer to hire them)
You assume that value is 100% objective, the same for everyone. That is of course wrong. If I buy soft drink for a dollar, I do it because I value soft drink more than a dollar; the soft drink company does it because it values a dollar more than the soft drink.
Voluntary transactions are not a zero-sum game. Suppose I have two hammers and no nails; you have 100 nails and no hammer. Both of us need to hammer 50 nails. If you give me 50 nails and I give you one hammer, both sides profit.
Seriously, if you don't want the work don't take it. Nobody forces you to work at Amazon
And, what the hell do you think a strike is, anyway?
You can argue that strikes are good, but that argument didn't cut it.
The grand-parent was arguing that if you don't like the work, you should find another one.
You argue that this is what a strike is; wrong. The company is prohibited by law from firing strikers. So striking is "having the cake and eating it too".
(also, I modded you "flamebait" by accident, and I am undoing it now)
The problem is that they define "propaganda" as broadly as possible, to the point where even talking about homosexuality in a non-negative light is criminalized. Gatherings of gay groups is also criminalized (and not just parades, this includes political groups), whether a minor is present or not. In fact the law is worded in such a way that it doesn't really matter if a minor is present
Do you have reliable, impartial, non-activist sources on your claims?
You don't "necessarily support" this law?
Correct, because I do not have the details, and am too busy to spend time
studying a Russian law which I have no way to change.
you're upset people are coming out against it?
Wrong. I am upset that people are using outrageous logical fallacies for
political reasons. Politics is already dominated by logical fallacies, it is
a huge problem. We don't need more of it.
And saying "At least they aren't shooting people!" isn't the greatest
defense.
Except that I didn't say that. Read my post and read its parent. I was
exemplifying what hyperbole is and what it isn't.
Yeah, it's as hyperbolic as pointing out that Castro imprisoned people for saying stuff he didn't like.
Fidel Castro was not content with imprisioning, he shot them. And saying that is not hyperbole, because it actually describes objectively what Fidel Castro did, without exageration.
Sorry, but the excuse that it's "not because they're gay but because they're speading gay propaganda" line is simply bullshit.
The law (which I do not necessarily support) forbids people from spreading a specific kind of propaganda to minors. You are implying that people get arrested for being attracted to the same sex (that is, beging gay). That is undeniably hyperbole.
If you can't understand words based on their definition, lets try an analogy.
The government of Elbonia forbids spreading alcochol propaganda to minors. Then someone says "Oh my God, that is fascism, they are imprisioning people who like beer!".
Would not that be hyperbole?
people being locked up in prison for being gay
Hyperbole much?
You are free to choose: that's what the ballot box is for.
Capitalistic "freedom of choice" is weighted by the size of your wallet.
I am not a libertarian (nor do I oppose reasonable environmental regulations) but I take offsense at your suggestion that I should always obey what the majority decides at the ballot box.
Majority decision is reasoanble in many situations, but in other situations it leads to the majority trampling over the rights of dissenting individuals. At the very very least, we need checks and balances - multiple levels of government (local, state, federal), multiple branches at each level, and all limited by a good Constitution. Like the USA was supposed to be.
"Only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core." -- Hannah Arendt.