All you have to do is not suck. Just don't completely fuck this up like gnome and ubuntu did and you'll be fine.

Normally I hate citing wikipedia, esp on politically divisive topics, but I'm doing it now just to show how mainstream this criticism is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...

At this point you're refusing to even have a conversation in favor of a one-sided proselytization where you do nothing but ignore whatever I say and harp on your broken narrative of "obsessing about individuals". You are not speaking sensibly, you're talking bullshit, you're contradicting yourself, and you're refusing to listen.

You can't "ask the magazines" because there's no such thing as a "magazine", the magazine is nothing more than a collection of INDIVIDUALS that may or may not be corrupt. Do you get this? Do you get that we don't live in a magic fantasy land where "magazines" and "websites" and "corruption" are living things that you can target directly? Do you understand that these are not real entities, they're just made up of INDIVIDUALS and the only way to make any change is to deal with the individuals behind them? Do you understand that? That human beings are what write magazines and webpages? Because I don't think you do.

What you are demanding is no different than telling the police to "stop crime" and then telling them not to actually arrest any criminals. It's impossible, because the only way to actually stop crime is to arrest the criminals committing crimes.

And on top of that, you need to stop taking what the very people BEING protested say for granted. The entire problem is that the other side is simply flat out lying. It doesn't matter what gamergate says or does the other side will simply lie through their teeth and claim gamergate is "harassing women".

Again you are saying two different contradictory things at the same time and then acting surprised when I point this out. Corruption isn't some magical infection that just appears and takes over people's brains like a fungus, there isn't some corrupt-o-beam hitting SF from outer space. Just like organized crime does in fact have leaders so too does organized corruption in gaming journalism, in this case the leaders being the most prominent voices in the toxic SJW cult and most influential members of the leaked GameJournoPros list.

Your second paragraph sums up the reason your argument is fallacious and very often one of the exact arguments used in bad faith by GameJournoPros supporters: You can't "focus on the whole" like some kind of magic cosmic entity existing in its own right, the "whole" is made of individuals.

Your demand is impossible to ever satisfy. You can't "end corruption" any more than you can "stop crime". You need to deal with tangible individual criminals and sources of corruption until there are none left, like weeding a garden. This is especially a problem when one of the defining features of the other side is its cults of personality.

At this point I'm starting to wonder whether you really don't get that you're making self-contradicting statements and impossible demands, or whether you're just a very civil troll arguing in bad faith.

The difference is this isn't a slipper slope fallacy because these kinds of block lists have already been shown to be used for political purposes wherever they show up. It's not unsubstantiated conjecture.

The level of doublethink you're engaging in is astounding. "this is meant to be about the corruption in gaming media" but then in the very next sentence you turn around and say the most prominent individuals who are leading that corruption are irrelevant. The fact that violent racists and bigots are using "feminism" to gain influence and social power as well as shield themselves from criticism IS a core part of the corruption in gaming media.

Also this isn't about likely or unlikely, there's proof of these things. The GNAA wasn't even TRYING to hide their actions, even zoe herself retweeted their offers to pay for fake gamergate tweets. This is easily verifiable, just like it's easily verifiable that r/games mods only selectively censor things.

Your posts are starting to not make sense, you're saying two different things at the same time and trying to act like you're not.

What's been "repeatedly proven" is that McIntosh takes things out of context, misrepresents them, or simply makes things up entirely (as in the most recent videos). It's also been proven that Sarkeesian is a former PUA scam artist saleswoman and that her videos were works of plagiarism and theft.

Then the problem is you're coming into something that's based on a lot of hard research, cross-checking financial records and ties, private listservs that have been leaked, and so on and then expecting it to be as immediately comprehensible as a daylight bank robbery. Unfortunately it's not.

The reason r/games and r/gaming get called out is because they've deleted tens of thousands of posts and censor everything that isn't pro-GameJournoPros, but are perfectly happy to post proven lies and misinformation if it fits their prejudices. The idea tht they "want to talk about games" falls flat.

When it comes to the "literally whos" nobody is obsessed with them, they keep shoving themselves into everything because that's how they make money. They are living examples of how the system is broken and dysfunctional and people ARE focusing on their actions and the system, but there's nothing in this world more powerful than a woman's tears. All they have to do is cry "harassment! misogyny!" and even someone pointing out they're factually wrong becomes worse than sealclubbing.

As for being better than the other side... gamergate has gone to the lengths of filing FBI reports and organizing an unprecedented level of policing on twitter. Everything blamed on them has been proven to either not have been real in the first place (Brianna Wu's "Brololz" fake account) or the act of third party trolls (Zoe working with the GNAA to pay for fake harassing tweets). Meanwhile the most prominent leading voices on the other side are neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists who publicly encourage and participate in doxing and SWATting. It's just not comparable.

To quote Kazerad: Gamergate may be morally grey, but the people they're fighting are morally devoid.

It's recognized but by very few. Just look at how Hoff-Sommers gets treated vs Marcotte.

Maybe you should start with understanding how websites like crowdrise work before libelling people.

"t is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'"

You are trying to claim that hundreds of thousands of people of all races, orientations, genders, and political stripes have come together for 6 months in a conspiracy of staggering size and scope, for an unprecedented duration, for the sole reason that they happen to hate women. And that they way they express this is by raising hundreds of thousands of dollars for radical feminists, anti-bullying/anti-suicide charities, and lobbying the FTC for regulatory reform (which they got, in fact).

I think the person sounding like a 9/11 truther here is the one siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists.

You mean the victim of domestic abuse who posted about his abuser, and experiences being abused, after HE dumped HER? And that so far almost every major claim has turned out to have so much evidence behind it that the FTC has come down hard on Gawker and its ilk? The only people whose claims have been debunked time and time again are the self-aggrandizing manipulative bigots trying to claim they're victims while getting caught working with racist GNAA trolls to pay for fake tweets while they themselves publicly dox anyone they dislike.

You're siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists who STARTED by calling women "house ni***ers" and escalated to getting people fired, hacking bank accounts, mailing knives, syringes, and dead animals to people, and even SWATting.

Gamergate HAS a problem, and that problem is that they picked a fight with people that have no problem paying for fake tweets saying things like that, even as they themselves scream racial slurs like "house ni***" at women, get black men fired from their jobs for disagreeing with rich white hipsters, mail people knives, syringes, and dead animals, and send SWAT teams to peoples houses to try and get them killed.

You want to talk about civilized society... maybe you shouldn't be siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists.

Don't "give you shit" about how a completely seperate group of people that hates gamergate as much as the other side isn't part of gamergate. Sure. Right. Thanks for showing exactly how strongly you utterly refuse to accept anything that contradicts your pre-existing prejudices. As for your last line... that basically sums SJWs up in a nutshell. You claim to be for "equality" but you have no problem claiming that you're "more equal" than others.

Anti-gamergate started at the level of screaming racial slurs like "house ni**er" at women who disagreed with them and immediately escalated to targeting women and non-white/LGBT supporters of gamergate for doxing and harassment, successfully getting several fired. They also hacked people's bank accounts, cut off their utilities or paycheck by fraud, sent people knives, syringes, and dead animals in the mail, and have been behind multiple SWATtings. I lost count of how many people had been doxed or worse by anti-GG around thirty, with four SWATtings and at least three jobs lost to racist or sexist harassment targeted at women and minorities, and that was in october of LAST YEAR.

The most prominent public figures on the GameJournoPros side include neonazis, domestic abusers, violent racists, and pedophiles all of whom publicly support, encourage, and even participate in doxing, swatting, and other similarly criminal tactics.

You're right not everything is equal, but the craven intellectual dishonesty belongs to the person who's claiming rich racists protecting a perjurious domestic abuser are having it worse than the people they're getting fired, trying to get killed, and mailing knives, syringes, and dead animals to.

It's not just common that is in fact an organized tactic with its own hashtag dedicated to it.