Catch up on stories from the past week (and beyond) at the Slashdot story archive

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

I am actually glad there is a place where kiddie diddlers can discuss kiddie diddling. Not because I engage in that, or in any way approve or condone it, but because it is in line with the ideals and philosophy behind our Bill of Rights

And equally, I am free to avoid those places. And if they are associated with a particular website (say by being a sub-site) I am also free to avoid that particular main website altogether.

Not supporting something is not the same as banning it.

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

The problem is that people who are angry with reddit on this are saying that it is morally wrong for anyone to censor anything, and are trying to say that exercising editorial discretion is censorship. They then extend this to say that anyone who opposes this total freedom is against "free speech", as though it's an either/or thing.

I agree that racists and paedophiles should be allowed to write whatever rubbish they want without facing imprisonment by the government. Apart from that, I hope that no one listens to them at all.

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

To "censor" is to review something and to choose to remove or hide parts of it that are considered unacceptable.

But by that definition, if I write an essay advocating anarchist revolution to a conservative newspaper and they decide not to publish it in full on their letters page, they are "censoring" me.

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

Your personal definition of "censorship" simply isn't shared by most people. You can admit that and move on, or keep insisting "words mean what I want them to mean", but the latter won't lead to successful communication on the topic.

But if you extend "censorship" to mean "any time someone doesn't publish something that someone else says" then almost anything can be called censorship, so the term becomes meaningless.

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

The First Amendment is about government infringing that right. Private censorship is still censorship, and it can potentially become as big of a threat to social progress as speech repressed by the government. For example. lots of social issues have been avoided in mainstream media because of corporate/political incentives to stay quiet about the subject. On the flip side, there is censorship that most would find totally acceptable. I'm quite fine with not seeing the genitals of a man who was streaking through a stadium. But that's still censorship, and we need to acknowledge that, and consider it as such.

If a school forbids teachers from watching child porn videos at their desks during lessons, that's censorship. If I decide not to call my boss at work a fat fucking cunt, that's self-censorship.

Your point is true, but so wide ranging as to be meaningless.

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

Where do you draw the line? You can't post anything on the Web without using someone else's infrastructure - even if you host your own server, you still need to get it connected to a commercial ISP. Is it okay for them to refuse the connection because it would be giving you a platform to say something that you don't want to say? Free speech is pretty meaningless if you can only exercise it in your own home - you shouldn't be able to force everyone to listen, but you should be able to give everyone the opportunity to listen if they choose to, and that's pretty hard without someone giving you a platform.

If you look at the sheer volume of crap and filth on the internet, I really don't think you can pretend it's hard to get your stuff published somewhere.

The point is that the world does not owe you a soapbox.

Comment Re:For an alternative (Score 1) 581

I certainly don't intend to control the policies of private businesses -- but I also don't have to support businesses whose policies I don't like.

No, you don't.

But it's interesting how on the other side, people complain about the calls to boycott Mozilla or Chicken-fil-A because of perceived homophobic comments by their directors.

Comment Re:Free speech has no meaning (Score 1) 581

There are studies that indicate that the abundance of porn, including violent porn, drives down rates of actual sexual violence. Men who would otherwise act on their violent sexual desires are mollified by watching somebody else pretend to do it and jerking off.

Surely on that basis there would be pretty much zero rape nowadays, since everyone outside places like North Korea has access to as much porn as they could ever need?

Rape is about more than sexual gratification, as even without porn anyone has always been able to jerk off if that's all they want.

Comment Re:Free speech has no meaning (Score 1) 581

The one thing in common with virtually all these lone gunman type terrorists or spree killers is their involvement in extremist online communities. It's a positive feedback loop.

Sources? I know that the church shooter guy was interested in neo-nazis online, but what other ones are you talking about? I actually think that you're just making that up, though, so you don't have to respond.

Anders Breivik is an obvious example of a neo nazi.

More generally, surely you are aware of the influence of ISIS's social media campaigns in recruiting terrorists?

Comment Re:Free speech has no meaning (Score 1) 581

Life is full of unpleasant things. Making it illegal to talk about them does not make them go away; it just allows them to grow in the dark.

You do know that there is a difference between a media outlet imposing certain community standards and making something illegal?

If reddit (or my local school newsletter) decline to publish someone's racist rant, that is up to them. It is another matter entirely if the government arrest that person for writing and publishing the racist rant.

Your right to free speech covers the latter case only. It has never meant that anyone can be forced to publish your views.

Comment Re:Why are the British spending so much? (Score 1) 143

Only $6 billion to construct 380 miles of sci-fi-technology high speed rail using entirely new technology? Really?

When the UK government is prepared to spunk $45 billion on constructing 335 miles of bog standard railway track for HS2?

I think you have the question backwards. It should be "how can $6 billion be a realistic estimate by Elon Musk"?

The answer is that it's not.

Slashdot Top Deals

If God had not given us sticky tape, it would have been necessary to invent it.

Working...