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Comment: Re:Wish he would create Galt's Gulch (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48659229) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

You make an example out of them with your vastly superior firepower. Galt's Gulch wasn't just a bunch of rich dudes hiding out, but also the greatest technology center in the world along with a very competent military force. Thus is the power of science fiction.

You do know the meaning of the last word in that paragraph, right?

Comment: Re: Is that it? (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48659193) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

40 years ago, Pong was first released on home console. And now I'm using a device with orders of magnitude more computational power than all of the pong consoles ever created combined. I just asked this device where I should go for lunch. It gave me a few suggestions and helpfully drew me a map.

Am I the only one who finds this less than awesome, in the scheme of things?

If I'd been working forty years ago, I'd have talked to a colleague, or read a newspaper or just walked down the street or something, and found a place to go for lunch.

Mobile phones are cool, but they aren't curing cancer.

Comment: Re:Is that it? (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48659155) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

Should one of these guys succeed, half the denigrating posters in this thread will immediately demand the government seize the technology and roll it out to the masses.

Yes, I'm sure "these guys" are both funding and performing all the scientific research into ageing themselves. They own all the research hospitals in the world, as well as all the universities doing practical and theoretical research.

If they will succeed, it will be a singlehanded piece of brilliance by one of these Randian supermen.

Comment: Re:Hahahahahahahahaha LOL (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48659049) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

But I suspect there actually is a simple magic bullet somewhere - something to stop us getting old. I doubt it will happen in my lifetime, but I think at some point a switch will be found to turn off aging.

Hmmm, do you also believe we'll have cold fusion in less than twenty years' time? Maybe time travel in another ten?

A lot of people on slashdot seem to look at the computer industry in the last 50 years and extrapolate from this that everything gets exponentially better.

Comment: Re:Nothing can go Wrong Here (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658955) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

The most fundamental right, upon which all other rights are based, is the right to life.

And that right only exists because human beings have developed civilisation and society and, gasp, government and the rule of law.

A gazelle on the African plains doesn't have a right to life, at least in any meaningful sense. If a lion catches and eats it, there's nothing wrong with that .

From the right to life derives the right to voluntarily trade for the goods that make life worth living, and real estate is also among those goods.

The ability to "own" a piece of land rests entirely on an artificial concept with the force of the law behind it (as opposed to the simple ability of the individual to defend it). Again, lions don't "own" the land they hunt on, they're just able to fight off other lions who want to be there too.

That doesn't mean it's wrong, but it's no more a natural right than my right to own an iPhone.

Too often, "social contract" is a verbal fog that sneaks in hidden restrictions against the life of an insufficiently careful thinker.

The term "social contract" is used to emphasise that human society is something other than everyone doing what they want, that there is give and take, mutual responsibilities and so on. The term "social compact" is perhaps more accurate, since as you say, a contract is voluntary.

As in any agreement, yes there are restrictions involved. In a rational human society, I am not free to murder you. If we were lions, I would be entirely free to try to kill you, and if I succeeded there would be no repercussions.

Comment: Re:I plan to live forever (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658817) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

You don't necessarily need that. If we can figure out how to extend our lives by 15 years, then we've got another 15 years to wait for another advancement. Rinse and repeat.

Yeah, in another 15 years' time, we'll have found the secret of immortality, just like we'll have cold fusion, Artificial Intelligence and time travel.

Comment: Re:And who will collect the trash? (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658811) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

Guatemala has a "social security" system, which is explicitly not libertarian, and if it is like other SS systems, it is a burden on the poor.

I can only conclude that libertarians read "Alice Through the Looking Glass" on a regular basis, and think of it as a How-To manual rather than a work of fiction.

Comment: Re:And who will collect the trash? (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658803) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

He can build his floating libertarian paradise. It will suck, just like every other libertarian paradise. Then these dumbass Randians will simply forget it, and their new dream will be to build... A LIBERTARIAN PARADISE IN SPACE! Yeah, that'll work. A system of government that's been an abysmal failure everywhere it's been tried on earth will definitely work out IN SPACE!

FFS don't encourage the bastards.

Comment: Re:And who will collect the trash? (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658795) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

Influence has no significance if influence doesn't lead to the use of force against someone. That force only exists in the context of a coercive government, i.e. a non-libertarian government.

So what happens when I ask my rich boss for a pay rise and he sacks me on the spot owing me a month's pay?

Or the factory next door dumps toxic waste into my water supply?

Or gangsters threaten to burn down my shop unless I pay them protection money?

Do you really believe that there is no use of psychological, economic or physical force apart from Teh Evil Government?

Comment: Re:I'll take the bait too (Score 2) 439

by tehcyder (#48658761) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years
As anyone on slashdot should know the words "free" and "freedom" need to be used with care.

It is circular reasoning to say that the closer to free market economics you have, the more freedom you have, and that therefore socialism is anti-freedom.

There are other sorts of freedom than economic freedom. Anyone is free to dine at the Ritz. I am free from worry about falling ill and being given a huge bill to pay. Linux is free even if you buy it. People are free to sleep on the freezing streets at Christmas. And so on.

Comment: Re:I'll take the bait too (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658735) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

Socialism is doing just fine in Germany, France, the Netherlands, Canada and anywhere else it's really been tried, thank you very much.

Fascist dictatorships who borrow socialism's rhetoric to excuse stealing everything for themselves (China, USSR, North Korea) don't work so well, but then again they're not socialist, so it all evens out.

And of course the "no true Scotsman" fallacies immediately follow.

Comment: Re:And who will collect the trash? (Score 1) 439

by tehcyder (#48658721) Attached to: How Venture Capitalist Peter Thiel Plans To Live 120 Years

Socialism in particular fails because the only motivation inherent in the system is to improve the lives of others

The idea behind socialism/communism (depending on your point of view" is "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs".

You are motivated to do the best you can for yourself, while knowing that you are not letting other people starve or die on the streets.

It is a libertarian/anarcho-capitalist begging of the question to say that socialism is bad because economic self-interest is the primary motivating factor for most people. It clearly isn't, or else everyone would be trying a lot harder to be a billionaire, and they wouldn't be wasting their time and money on enjoying themselves.

After any salary raise, you will have less money at the end of the month than you did before.

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