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Comment Re:What? (Score 1) 393

I have no intention of addressing failed business models, in Government or any other business. I'm addressing the fallacious claim that Government cannot create wealth, that it just redistributes it. Any argument for that applies equally to a large number of powerful corporations.

[more_than_value] is a priority to entice an opposing party to voluntarily agree to pay for product/services rendered.

Not so for government, since it can claim its taxes from individuals involuntarily. Where do I get to choose not to pay taxes to stop supporting the current political insanity?

The monopoly you cite on violent force is only a monopoly in recent times. In ye olden days (100 years ago, and less in cases), violent force has been employed with impunity by corporate entities. In my eye, the Government is simply the biggest Corporation on the block, and one we're lucky enough to be able to vote for representation in (ignoring the obvious problems with the electoral process in the US)

Governments have been around for much longer than corporations. They are hardly a reaction to corporate violence.

But I agree that governments are in practice a sort of mega-national-corporation. Which demonstrates the folly of trusting government to reign in corporations - it's asking a wolf to police the wolves. Government is the greatest threat to your liberty; keep it on a short leash.

Microsoft can offer you a crappy OS with every PC you buy, but the government is the one that can put you in jail. Expanding government power to protect you from the Microsofts and Apples of the world is counter-productive.

Comment Re:What? (Score 1) 393

But don't think they did it without being asked/persuaded (corruption) to.

Men aren't angels, and the ones in government are no exception. Just to clarify that this is not innocent government corrupted by evil corporations, but men in both government and corporations working for their own selfish benefit.

In the complete absence of a representative government, that I can at least vote for, a corporation would form to serve its same function, without representation. We saw this with the earliest corporate charters in the early Age of Exploration empires.

Charters are acquired from some authority. Like a government.

With government's monopoly on force, all corporations that force their customers to buy their products do so by bribing or becoming the government. (rent/buy monopoly on violence)

To get back to wealth creation, the distinction is between the wealth creation of voluntary and involuntary transactions.

Voluntary transactions requires an offer of greater value to entice agreement. Involuntary transactions can resort to strongarm tactics, and so offering greater value is a lesser concern and often skipped. .

Comment Re:What? (Score 1) 393

There's also the fact that only a fucking moron would claim one can reasonably live in modern society without being indirectly forced into purchasing quite a few products from corporations; of course, should someone do this, they won't need money for very much, and thus won't have to work, and thus won't be taxed... Shit. They really are the goddamn same. Do you know when elections are for my local power company representative?

Who do you think gave your power company a local monopoly? It may well be the most practical solution, but you can't ignore that government is involved and is enforcing that particular solution. Power company goons don't come to your house to force you to do business with them. Your local/state government passed laws regulating how power is sold in your area, how it will be connected, to what power standards, and uses its police power to enforce those laws.

Comment Re:What? (Score 1) 393

Government needs to give you enough bang for your buck to get re-elected. Also, countries compete with one another, and less effective ones disappear into history. But that doesn't fit Libertarian narrative, so it gets ignored.

A democratic government does get feedback from its people, but over a 1/2/4/6 year election cycle, depending on the exact country you live.

The longer feedback loop allows a lot more inefficiency than a short one. Those inefficiencies add up and result in government activity not producing wealth where a profit-minded business could have.

It's easy to not tip or not give business to a restaurant with poor food/service. It's not so easy to elect a new government to improve DMV service.

Just as you'd expect from organizations pursuing different goals.

Which makes it important to give the right work to the right organization.

Comment Re:What? (Score 1) 393

hires people to do work, ... they have created wealth

Not all work is equal. Money spent doesn't necessarily cause net wealth to be created, or no company would ever go bankrupt.

When a company goes bankrupt, they cease engaging in non-wealth producing activities.

Governments do not suffer the same restriction. Some governments do go bankrupt; but they are able to use their monopoly on violent force to keep things going for longer than they should.

Comment Re:What? (Score 3, Informative) 393

Yes. The argument is that if you call a large organization a government, it doesn't create wealth, whereas if you call it a corporation, it magically does... by acquiring money from some parties and redistributing it to further parties.

Yeah, the magic of labels.

That and the fact that the government collects that money by force, while the corporation has to give you enough value to make you voluntarily trade money for their product. Slightly different incentive structure there.

In the end, the same amount of money is in the economy, and the same amount is in the hands of other businesses, all that's changed is which specific businesses have it, what work is actually done, and who benefits from the work done.

It's all the same if you throw out all the differences.

Comment Re:Soda can... (Score 1) 163

You leave some space in front of you. Someone pulls in. Now what? Do you slow down and leave some space in front, or accept your fate? If you slow down a bit, get some space, then someone new pulls in front. Keep trying to leave space, and you're now going slower than traffic. Get it?

Are you trying to thought experiment this driving style, or have you actually tried it?

If you left a car-sized gap in front of you - you don't have to slow down at all for someone to merge in!

Now, the driving style would rebuild that gap - but you don't have to do it instantly - you let off the accelerator and build a new gap over 5~10 seconds, which limits how soon another car can "cut in". If someone wants to merge in every single time you leave a gap, your lane is faster than the adjacent lanes - which indicates you are *not* slower than traffic.

"people merge every time I have a gap" and "slower than traffic" do not mix. Either you are slower than traffic and people stop merging, or people are constantly merging and you're faster than (overall) traffic.

Comment Re:Soda can... (Score 2) 163

Try keeping that distance without driving significantly slower than the flow of traffic - unless people pulling in front of you is rare, you can't. Driving at the wrong speed, especially in "bumper to bumper at 70 MPH" traffic creates a significant traffic hazard.

To maintain the same distance in front of you, you are driving the same speed as the car in front of you. How is that the wrong speed?

If there is a constant stream of people merging into your lane - your lane must be faster, or it's their exit. If it's not their exit, there is no reason for them to merge into your lane when you're slower.

The only way your lane is faster while you are going slower is if there is a giant gap in front of you - in which case they should be merging into your lane to distribute the traffic load.

Comment Re:Simple (Score 1) 509

Okay, so you are just using sexual stereotypes? The women I know often do get into marriage and motherhood, and also have job skills. The former is important, and the latter can be absolutely vital, particularly when a woman has children and no husband.

Please read what I'm saying more carefully.

At no point have I said women should not get job skills. My every response has been to point out that it is worthwhile and reasonable to suggest she pick up home-making skills (ex: home econ).

That is not equivalent of "don't learn any job skills" in any shape or form. Homemaking IS a job skill; it can be used in a paying job, as well as to support a family. This interpretation of "learn home econ/homemaking" as "be useless" is utterly illogical.

Comment Re:Simple (Score 1) 509

Thing is, if I lose my job, there's plenty of other jobs out there that I can get, and I can work there without being intimately and sexually involved with the companies. Finding a husband to support one is a lot dicier, and I know one woman who wound up with a really bad choice.

Thing is, how many women want to die alone and barren, but with a well-paid career?

Obviously it'd be great to have a husband and kids and the well-paid career - but given a choice between one or the other, I think most women would pick the former.

Telling girls that they should pick up those skills is on average going to be a net gain. The few who 100% want nothing to do with men and do so for their entire life are the only ones who would "lose out" by picking up these skills. (As if they don't need home-making if single)

Having some home-making skills does not exclude one from picking up job skills.

Comment Re:Simple (Score 1) 509

Staying married isn't necessarily a skill. It can be a test of endurance, given an abusive husband. A woman should at least have a viable plan B should her husband become an alcoholic, or die, or become incapacitated, or find somebody younger and prettier, or anything like that.

Staying married is a state.

Picking a husband worth keeping is a skill. Developing habits and capabilities that make one desirable to such a husband is a skill.

Homemaking as a career is very risky.

All careers are risky - and I'll note that most divorces are initiated by women, the "hotter replacement" risk is lower than it seems.

The question is if the risks and rewards are in line with one's values and desires.

Comment Re:Simple (Score 1) 509

Women have no significant inherent advantage over men as homemakers. They can give birth, but that is basically irrelevant. They can breast-feed babies, but a man can feed the kid with a bottle containing formula (personal experience here). Everything else can be done equally by men and women.

They have a psychological advantage raising kids in the early years. Giving birth is not irrelevant, especially given the current legal system.

Moreover, "homemaker" isn't a particularly good career option if she's looking for steady employment. If I lose my job as a software developer, I can get another such job. If a woman loses her homemaker job, she may well not be able to get another one.

Being desirable for marriage and staying married are both skills. A poor homemaker may end up getting "fired" (which is not that frequent) - but so can a poor software developer.

Comment Re:Simple (Score 1) 509

can't outsource child making and rearing

*cough* public school system *cough*

How exactly do you plan to outsource child making to the public school system?

How effective do you think the public school system is at replacing parents?

has capabilities unique to her sex.

What kind of sexist bullshit is this? What? Men can't raise children?

Last I checked, men don't have wombs. Or breasts.

I guess at some point there'll be artificial wombs ... but still, men who want children need a woman. And if they're halfway competent, they'll want her to keep mothering them.

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