You're still here after all these years?

Notably though if we actually run out of work to do we have a post-scarcity utopia, and that happens when people are so rich that there's basically not a single person who, given even more money, would even be able to think of something to spend it on. That's not going to happen any time soon, so we're basically dealing with a distribution problem, which requires distribution (e.g. minimum wage, set it to 1/3 national hourly GDP, the reason for this takes a while to explain) and redistribution (negative income tax, do it as a universal dividend) policies along with monetary policy to properly increase the money supply to not fall behind productivity growth.

Just hack into everything he makes, that's going to be the MO here. "Oh this guy's LinkedIn says he worked at [insurance company]" boom, an army of 14 year olds now is millionaires from stealing millions of credit cards and selling them on the dark web.

Restricted movement is ineffective because viruses move. Goods move or your country dies. People jump borders--not just the unauthorized immigration about which Trump keeps whining, but do you think anyone wasn't desperately trying to evade the prohibition from leaving Wuhan? Everyone in Wuhan wanted out of Wuhan. Border guards contact these people and get the virus; physical barriers prohibit anyone who doesn't have the determination to go over, under, around, or through, and don't change their tactics as people compromise them.

It's not ineffective because you did it wrong; it's ineffective because it doesn't fucking work.

He IS doing three things at once: fluffing up his campaign, assaulting the WHO, and misdirecting away from his own stupidity.

Yeah, I made 26% today in the first 40 seconds of market open. I'm out right now looking for a directional signal. If we don't seem to be hitting recession, I'll jump in on a triple-leveraged position and take another 60% growth in a week.

It's not exactly a risk-free enterprise. I *can* lose 10% in a day (I've done it before). The whole aim is of course to gain more than I lose in the long run. The S&P does that, but look at its movement: up 1%, down 0.9%, up 1%... I don't like those single-day swings. I like 3% over a week, since I can identify when it's shifting its trend and change my strategy. Repeatedly. That means when it goes up 2%, down 3%, up 2%, down 3%, I make 30%.

As you can imagine, the recent growth (with such tiny wobbles) has been not great for me. It's a lot of risk when the movements are slow, since it turns around in 2-3 days and I usually would buy in at the bottom if it only drops 0.5% across the whole span, so I've been out of the market.

But what if you increase productivity and capital and the rent-seekers just soak it all up by raising prices? That's what GPP is suggesting. (This actually happens if minimum wage doesn't track with per-capita income.)

As for increasing productivity, there are a number of ways to bolster that. Negative income tax is actually one way: when you get a liquidity crisis, you lose employment because people who want to buy have no money to pay people who want to work. You can literally fix this by printing money, although I tend to rely on tax-sourced funding--and even then, it moves from low MPC to high MPC. That means NIT flows spending power into geographically concentrated areas of low spending, creating employment, which increases productivity per-capita by increasing labor hours.

Plenty of people drop out of studies and don't return surveys, yet are highly-responsible people. Folks don't necessarily see the same things as a responsibility, i.e. they may see the survey as a triviality and not understand the importance of scientific research.

Here's a fun one: do you think people are more or less likely to do something if you pay them?

We've actually tried this several times. In Sweden, the government did an experiment where they asked various towns if they could put a nuclear waste containment facility near the town. Generally around 45%-50% of residents said yes. They also tried the same survey, but offering the townspeople $4,000, which got them barely above 25% of residents saying yes. Why do these people hate money?

Simple: when not offered money, they had no perception that they weren't offered enough. When offered money, they decided it wasn't enough money.

I get surveys all the time. Sometimes I answer them; sometimes I don't. I only answer the census because I know it matters. I answered an arbor society survey once, then ignored it the next year. I've also held a job for over 6 years straight and never missed a debt payment in my life. Where do I fall in your categorization?

That's right: your existing prejudices and biases inform your ideals about what surveys say about people--or, not really; it's not the survey, but your existing prejudices and biases about giving people free money. That's not human nature; it's a heuristic from recognition of a common archetype: you're the sort who needs downward social comparison so you can feel good about being better than some people.

Can't say they went to college or got jobs or lazed around, is my point.

There's no practical way to enforce many things, like price fixing.

UBI and NIT systems are actually capitalist.

That's actually not what happened. Of the 32 who left the workforce, 29 were in unstable employment to begin with. A great number of those who did leave the workforce--and of the unemployed--went to college or vocational training.

We can't project anything about those who didn't follow up. They could have all gotten better jobs and become disinterested in the survey for all we know. Remember people who don't respond to surveys are a different group: there's some variable that separates them from people who do respond to surveys.

Yes, the recent one in Ontario.

Potentially, yes. Notably, opening new business to capture new revenues when the income base expands isn't profitable if that new income is going to vanish in 4 years. Lower-productivity establishments will open, but nothing with any permanence. Walmart might staff more and restock its shelves faster.

The long-term effects are most likely to be increased GDP and lower unemployment not reflected by these short-term, partial-population studies.

Also there are a lot of food manufacturers and grocery stores. We'll just shop wherever prices are cheapest.