I suppose all these Apple Music users are just making it up.

There is no substance in anything you say because you avoid the real conversation:

Apple is happy to take from the open source community Apple is not so happy to share with or even acknowledge the community of developers that OSX owes its existence to. Case in point, I can run posix apps on OSX, but can I run iTunes on FreeBSD - I somehow doubt it.

You have no answer. Those who are skilled enough, created something good that Apple built products on and the best you have to offer is snyde sarcasm and disdain.

There is little credibility in anything you have to say. Seriously.

It's clear to see that you are an apologist for Apple calming down any criticism of the company.

The lack of maturity in your response is a typical shallow Apple fanboi response. No capacity to argue the issues with any authority so you just call me a hater. It proves what I have to say - someone has to loose for you to win.

I don't care if that is your choice and just because I don't choose it, doesn't make me a hater however your response does show you to be a fanboi.

But not the users or musicians. See that's the thing with the whole fanboi attitude - someone has to loose for their choice to win. Winning for you means we are forced into your choices, not because it is a better choice, but because all the other choices have been eliminated. Somehow, you think that is good.

Apple is becoming more like Microsoft used to be every day and guys like you cheer it on exactly the same way the MS fanbois used to.

Same shit, different bucket.

And here I am being modded a troll because I'm offering my opinion on *not* using itunes. FYI: I've never had any problems, at all with my music collection because I choose to control my reality.

That means I choose not to have iTunes abstract that control.

It has nothing to do with Android. OSX uses Free BSD components and whilst Apple is happy to take from the open source community Apple is not so happy to share with or even acknowledge the community of developers that OSX owes its existence to. Case in point, I can run posix apps on OSX, but can I run iTunes on FreeBSD - I somehow doubt it.

I was talking about my experience as an advanced user and the lack of problems I have managing my music collection, I never claimed to be talking about itunes.

Great - has someone told Bruce Willis?

True that!

works fine, i.e. advanced user.

I don't use itunes so I wouldn't know how the music gets on the device, I thought it was streamed AAC, my mistake. I don't understand what the complaints are about however I do like to maintain control over my music collection.

So as long as you have an itunes to manage it, I don't think it is so easy to step out of the walled garden once you step into it.

Meanwhile the factory ship goes on destroying more in its by-catch leaving a corridor of nothing behind. Of course the solution will be to kill the remaining sharks and let the fucktory ships go about their business.

We are clearly a race navel gazing it's way to extinction.

You're a great example of the parasites every great endeavour attracts.

And you base your opinion on?

When I see an 'advanced' apple user going into a tunnel on the train I just chuckle and turn my cheap mp3 player up a bit more to drown out their complaints. They made their choice.

I still have control over my music collection and it still grows. Advanced users don't do use itunes, they use whatever they damn well please because they don't need Apples software. As far as 'control over your music organization' goes a few regular expressions and a 5 line shell script are enough to sort any mess.

No I mean accountants and ERP users that actually use applications in the enterprise. C-levels and VPs are a very small group of users, important, but only if you are managing stakeholder expectations.

Oh and I can see the fanbois are out modding again and taking everything personally.

There just aren't enough mod points for this comment.

Yet.

If only enough people that mattered used Safari. Deploying an enterprise based web application using Safari the way dependency on IE6 was created is unlikely to happen again.