Who is to say if a call was really pocket-dialed, or the call was triggered by a third party on a hacked phone....

The real question is why ANYONE would think you have to like all the people you work with.

You don't have to of course. You are just an idiot if you don't seek that out when you have the ability - which all developers do because of the ease of finding work currently. I feel sorry for people who have more trouble finding work, who do not have that flexibility...

If you think about it, if you are working with a lot of people you don't like as a developer you are spitting on the less privileged. Or you are a masochist, which is fine - I also don't have to work with you.

It's neither anecdote nor data, it's a fact.

You said it was impossible to enforce. The facts are that is is not impossible, because people do succeed in claiming compensation for such discrimination.

This isn't about what you think I implied, it's about the wrong thing that you actually said.

Wrong again. There's a couple of obvious ways of finding evidence of this. One is that you make the same application under different names, only varying the one characteristic that you think is being discriminated against. That's strong evidence if the applications are treated differently.

The second, where the is a larger company that has a significant number of people in similar roles, is simply to loon at the demographics of who is employed, and compare with applications.

There may well be other ways, depending on the case.

Again, this established law (depending on jurisdiction) and has been successfully actioned on. The weak no-true scotsman argument makes no odds.

Conspiracy theory now? Idiot.

It's not an anecdote. I'm not telling you about something I experienced, but the fact of actual applicants claiming successfully against discriminatory employers. Now you're talking about percentage of times, and the fact that you don't know how often the law is broken. Yet that applies to all law.

I know you hate workers rights, and that's why you are arguing. But the fact is you are wrong about it being impossible to police.

You're asking why a flamebait answer got modded flamebait?

It often happens that more sensible moderation comes along later, as grown ups are often working, and not reading Slashdot right through the day.

Or indeed any other work related attribute of the individual. That's not discrimination, that's perfectly legitimate candidate selection.

Bigotry, and indeed illegal discrimination, are all about things that are accidents of birth, and wouldn't necessarily affect job performance. Gender, color, race, age.

And generally where those things do actually affect whether a person can do a job there are explicit exceptions in the law. e.g. It's perfectly legal and indeed normal to select actors by gender or race.

"Yes, we are aware that these do not apply for each individual. However when you need to hire somebody, you want the least risk. The experience we have is that it costs us less with men."

"Yes, we are aware that these do not apply for each individual. However when you need to hire somebody, you want the least risk. The experience we have is that it costs us less with white people."

Sorry, but no, your prejudiced ideas are both immoral, and depending on where you are, illegal.

Well in my country employers are found liable under this legislation reasonably often, so I don't know where you get the idea it's impossible to enforce.

Not only that it seems to be having an effect with older people often employed in jobs which used to go to young people.

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't (at least for me).

The problem is that needing that to come on eliminates any advantage it had in having a screen that was always on vs. the Apple Watch - in the end if I move my wrist to see the time I am successful way more often with the Apple Watch than with the Pebble Time.

I see the question burned in your mind so brightly, you felt the need to post twice...

You seem to think it's OK to dislike me because of your own prejudice, so why then are you angry when other people do the same?

Because people of your worldview need such nonsense to think rationally, I'll qualify my point by noting that I personally support gay weddings, have a number of gay friends and friends of color... I'm not the bigot that your mind has formed, you are for hating what your imagination has crafted of me.

People like you think you can wave away human nature, even as your own devours your soul.

I will not answer you any longer, for you mentally are not in a place that you can be helped or even informed... If you can't learn from an exchange why should I bother?

If they are good at what they do then you don't have to like them.

You are rather an idiot if you make that choice though, if there is a choice...

For programmers there *is* a choice. You have a lot of opportunity, a lot of ability to make choices as to where you work and who with. To not exercise that choice is self-harm, degrading in the literal sense to you and your mental health.

It's not any different at all, nor is it different from someone who really hates Star Wars not wanting to hire me. That is the point, you are saying it is like , when in reality it's the other way around and your list is a tiny subset of potentials.

People can be closed-minded beyond so many of the hot-button reasons you list.

Bullshit generalisations that are exactly the reason for age discrimination laws (where they exist). Some old people are hard to train, some young people are. Some old people are set in their ways, some young people are.

Go ask any college professor, they'll tell you that as often as not the mature students are the best learners.

Again, the law exists to combat prejudice exactly like that.

I'm afraid that's you also being ageist. You can't generalise, any more than you can generalise by gender or race. People have all sorts of personalities, and they develop in all sorts of different directions through their lives.