Yay, you can find a tiny handful of examples of people who support your argument! But most of the people who support mine, you'll never know their names, they're just in the background making money while you pay for it.

Unfortunately, they often wind up just shuffling that money between themselves, and it never trickles down to us poor ignorant saps in the trenches. It should not be a news bulletin to you that trickle-down economics does not work, but that's precisely what you're arguing. The truth is that the rich don't buy stuff from poor people. They shop on different streets than poor people, let alone in different stores.

Yeah, his trust issues caused me a problem.

No, the fact it got owned later on is how we know he's not as smart as he thinks he is.

Oh no, the absolute best part was that because the guy was the boss' friend, I didn't even get to do the post-mortem on the machine that got owned, which means I didn't even get access to the warez. Well, no. The absolute best part was that I got blamed for the server existing, because stuff like that was my job. Lesson learned: firewall outgoing traffic, even in a small org where surely that would be more hassle than it would provide actual technical reward? (I could literally walk to all the desks and had only one person beneath me.) Be more BOFH, not less, because that is the only way to CYA. And if people don't like it, they ought to remember that they get the IT department that they deserve.

Yeah, I asked that question, I didn't get an answer. As it turned out it had entirely to do with him being a) arrogant and b) buddy-buddy with the boss, so he got away with it. He was just a special snowflake who thought he knew better than me, but he was obviously wrong. But he went to school with the boss.

You misread that. He undertook to raise the server on his own, he got away with creating a warez site by doing something I was supposed to do because he was friends with the boss.

Bullshit. They say no to specific requests which are stupid. They don't say no when you come to them and ask them how you can accomplish something. You're upset for the IT department not answering the right questions when they're being asked the wrong ones. Stop coming to the IT department like you know what you're doing, tell them what you need to do, and you'll get the results you're looking for. Also, come to them when you first know that you have an IT need, not at the last minute. You're creating your own problems.

You are correct, AC. They weren't idiots, they were evil, and they still are.

In a war between haves and have-nots, the have-nots have one thing: gross numerical superiority. The haves have seen to that. Which returns to my earlier statement: Share your wealth with us, or we will share our poverty with you. There will be a class war. When that happens, the wealthy burn along with the poor, and we all lose.

That was my reaction as well. That is precisely the opposite of how it works. If you become a Power User, you go Android, because that's the only phone in the game so far where you can build the system yourself from sources. By definition, the more of a power user you are, the more you're going to be an Android user.

I don't have to; I can read and other people have done the studies for me, as you can see in the links I posted in the prior discussion. People with credibility, unlike yourself. People who have actually done peer-reviewed studies, unlike yourself. I don't fall into the fallacy of thinking I'm smarter than everyone — that's why I looked it up.

I think sharing and cooperation are virtuous goals. The rich didn't earn what they have: for the most part, it is predicated directly upon the suffering of others, and it was mostly earned through the labor of others. And for what? So that people can stack up numbers in their bank accounts? Money they will never spend? Maybe they'll leave it to some progeny so that they can grow up to be useless, ignorant fucks as well?

Someone must be giving bankers modpoints. Or maybe Bing employees. Or maybe just some crybaby who also hasn't learned to internet.

Yeah, that's not the problem. The IT department is plumbing. The problem is that shitting is considered essential, so nobody grumbles about paying for plumbing because they know they need to shit, but nobody seems to realize that IT is also essential. It's not a value-add, it's a value-enabler. Without it, you don't have a business.

They didn't even ask, they just set it up, and then it got owned because they didn't know half as much as they thought they did. And that's why we IT workers don't want people thinking they know what they're doing. Mostly they don't.

That's what the fuckups always say. I worked for a web design/hosting startup as the network manager. The boss' buddy set up an FTP server and it immediately got owned and we became a warez site. We don't want control of this stuff because we're control freaks. We want control of this stuff so that someone else doesn't get it horribly wrong.

It sounds like you may be a little fragile for comment boards on the open internet that don't have specific rules against being mean to people. Such things exist, and they might be a healthier place for you to hang out until/unless you develop a thicker skin.

Slashdot is great because I can say precisely what I want to say, when I manage it anyhow.

What the GP said wasn't even close to the most negative thing I've seen in this discussion, let alone on Slashdot today. You must be new here.

What? This is an outright lie. I just covered this here recently, and the precise opposite is true. Mature trees fix more CO2 than young trees. Mature forest fixes more CO2 than young forest. I first found that this was true for Sequoia Sempervirens, but I dug around and found that this was true for the vast majority of trees. You can read the majority of my comments on this subject in the discussion reakthrough In Artificial Photosynthesis Captures CO2 In Acetate. As I recall, there was another discussion which followed soon after in which I provided additional citations.

Now, are you telling lies deliberately, or simply repeating lies in ignorance because you were too lazy to go do the research?

No. You are being an asshole or an idiot. I and others have covered this material exhaustively here repeatedly in the past, and I thought we were past this. This has been studied and the result was that there is a localized heating effect in a small area immediately downwind of the wind turbine which is rapidly lost in the noise of the already-chaotic system in precisely the same way that the butterfly effect is bullshit — if an entertaining thought exercise.

Now, are you trolling, or just talking ignorant shit so that you have something to say? There's no third option.