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Comment Why? (Score 3, Insightful) 226

What's wrong with Wayland that Mir fixes?
What else does Mir bring to the table that would make people use it over Wayland?
What is preventing Wayland from improving over the next 2 years?

If you want people to click on, read, and discuss articles, Slashdot, you should have articles worth clicking on, reading, and discussing.

I read TFA. Nothing in it answers the questions I have, not even the answer to the same fucking question that the interviewer had.

So that’s looking at Mir in relation to X. The obvious question is comparing Mir to Wayland – so what is it that Mir does, that Wayland doesn’t?

This might sound picky, but we have to distinguish what Wayland really is. Wayland is a protocol specification which is interesting because the value proposition is somewhat difficult. You’ve got a protocol and you’ve got a reference implementation. Specifically, when we started, Weston was still a test bed and everything being developed ended up in there.

No one was buying into that; no one was saying, “Look, we’re moving this to production-level quality with a bona fide protocol layer that is frozen and stable for a specific version that caters to application authors”. If you look at the Ubuntu repository today, or in Debian, there’s Wayland-cursor-whatever, so they have extensions already. So that’s a bit different from our approach to Mir, from my perspective at least.

There was this protocol that the Wayland developers finished and back then, before we did Mir and I looked into all of this, I wrote a Wayland compositor in Go, just to get to know things.

Comment Re:Thunderbolt (Score 1) 355

First of all, Firewire was never able to transfer arbitrary PCI traffic, thus you couldn't use it to attach external PCI/PCIe devices to your portable device. When PCIe "extender" solutions became available, they were expensive and bulky. The connectors were huge, and the cable thick, and sometimes it would just refuse to work in a particular setup. Thunderbolt provides this kind of functionality on a manageable, off-the-shelf interconnect that you can buy in nearby Walmart. A brand name thunderbolt single x16 PCIe card cage runs about $500, and you can buy off-brand ones for half that. This lets you pull off stunts like adding two graphics cards to your laptop. I'd say calling it a "bigger flop than firewire" is borderline trolling.

Connecting "directly" to PCIe for expansion/extension purposes is setting the clock 10 years back - if you have any PCIe to attach to begin with. Fewer and fewer laptops have expressCard slots, and some high end laptops rightfully (IMHO) got rid of them. I don't really miss expressCard on MacBooks. Thunderbolt is much easier to deal with.

Compare the adoption rate of firewire vs the adoption rate of Thunderbolt across peripherals.
Firewire was much more successful, and had an actual use at the time - it was much faster than USB when USB was a bottleneck for common uses.
Thunderbolt is faster than USB, but USB 3 and USB 3.1 are not bottlenecks for common uses. For high-demand uses, you should be using something like DisplayPort or PCIe, both of which are faster and cheaper (from controller to cable to licensing) than Thunderbolt.

I don't think you understand how Thunderbolt works - it's a controller that attaches directly to PCIe and then wraps some protocol shit around it so it can shunt USB, Ethernet, etc. over a single pipe. I would prefer to go over PCIe without Thunderbolt every single time.

Comment Re:Thunderbolt (Score 1) 355

A $30 cable, expensive Thunderbolt chipset, expensive peripherals, and you won't be getting actual 10 Gbps full duplex Ethernet through Thunderbolt, nor will it work a damn without an actual 10 Gbps Ethernet controller somewhere in the system.
Keep on keepin' on, though.

Does being stupid come with being an Apple-Hater, or did you pay extra? http://www.macworld.com/articl...

Having a fucking brain necessitates being a Mac hater. If you think you're getting anything near the capabilities for full duplex 10 Gbps Ethernet over Thunderbolt without a true 10 Gbps Ethernet controller in the system, you're a damned fool. If you do have a 10 Gbps Ethernet controller in the system, just use it directly.

Comment Re:I don't get it... (Score 4, Funny) 187

The people that go to them don't expect much and hence are rarely disappointed

I saw Spiderman 3, Iron Man 2, Iron Man 3, The Amazing Spiderman, Thor: The Dark World, Captain America: The Winter Soldier, Man of Steel, The Dark Knight Rises, The Dark Knight, Batman Begins, Hulk, The Incredible Hulk, Fantastic 4, Fantastic 4: Rise of the Silver Surfer, X-Men, X-Men 2, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men: Wolverine Origins, The Wolverine, X-Men: First Class, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Daredevil, The Green Lantern, Ghost Rider, Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, Superman Returns, The Punisher, and Ninja Turtles, you insensitive clod!

Comment Re:(Re:The Children!) Why? I'm not a pedophile! (Score 4, Insightful) 284

Our phones and computers are the modern day equivalent of "papers and effects".

No, the modern day equivalent of "papers and effects" are... your papers and effects. If you want protection to be applied to technology that didn't exist in the Founding Father's time, then do the honest thing and press for e.g. a constitutional amendment. Trying to stretch the Founding Fathers' words of over two centuries ago to your pet cause in 2014 is a can of worms that no one should want to open.

It's like you don't understand what "effects" are.

Comment Re:Thunderbolt (Score 1) 355

niche uses like most all video cameras.

Just because you don't understand the actual use, doesn't mean it's not useful to transfer data at 20Gbps.

I understand the use. "Most all video cameras" don't fucking have Thunderbolt. "Most all video cameras" can't fucking sustain that bandwidth out.

For any professional gear, DisplayPort 1.2/1.2a/1.3 is the better choice. 17.28 Gbps of bandwidth as of the end of 2009, 25.92 Gbps as of now. Yes, it supports daisy chaining.
So fuck right on off with telling me what I don't fucking understand.

Comment Re:Thunderbolt (Score 0) 355

Just because you don't understand what it's good for, doesn't mean it is important to others.

It's a bigger flop than firewire, which had a few niche uses.
Thunderbolt is nothing more than external PCIe with a yet another "one protocol to rule them all" wrapper.
We've had eternal PCIe for over a decade. We don't use it outside of pro workstations with external FirePro / Quadro shit.

They key selling point of Thunderbolt is "OMG it's so fast!". Yet the only practical uses for that speed for 99.99% of people are already served by other shit (DisplayPort, Ethernet, etc.). For regular use, USB 3.x will dominate the market, even if they're being completed retarded and still changing the connectors. For uses where you really do need speed, you connect to PCIe directly anyway.

As bad as USB 1-2 / 3 / 3.1 / otg / mini / micro / a / b / c is, Thunderbolt is worse because of the cost of the cables and controllers compounds with the fact that any port can be a thunderbolt port, so you'll need an adapter to go from that USB port that's actually a thunderbolt port on your Sony laptop to your thunderbolt cable to your thunderbolt device.
Passing ethernet, video and USB over a single cable may look nice, but it's not worth the cost and it serves very little purpose. Daisy chaining can be done via DisplayPort, if you really want. HDMI can carry Ethernet for some reason, and DisplayPort can carry USB (data and the higher-power charging shit).

Nothing about Thunderbolt is novel or particularly useful. Being connected straight to PCIe the way Thunderbolt is is wildly insecure, to boot.

Comment Re:21 day incubation period... (Score 1) 487

I've got 3 days to go, but the number of confirmed cases has already tripled, and the number of people exposed is now beyond accurate measuring. We're in full-on Kevin Bacon territory at this point. I had to wait less than a third of the alleged 21 day incubation period to be proven right.
Keep trusting the CDC and the Obama administration, though.

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