Anthropic Launches Claude Pro, a Subscription AI That May Rival ChatGPT Plus (arstechnica.com) 9
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: On Thursday, AI-maker and OpenAI competitor Anthropic launched Claude Pro, a subscription-based version of its Claude.ai web-based AI assistant, which functions similarly to ChatGPT. It's available for $20/month in the US or 18 pounds/month in the UK, and it promises five-times-higher usage limits, priority access to Claude during high-traffic periods, and early access to new features as they emerge. Like ChatGPT, Claude Pro can compose text, summarize, do analysis, solve logic puzzles, and more.
Claude.ai is what Anthropic offers as its conversational interface for its Claude 2 AI language model, similar to how ChatGPT provides an application wrapper for the underlying models GPT-3.5 and GPT-4. In February, OpenAI chose a subscription route for ChatGPT Plus, which for $20 a month also gives early access to new features, but it also unlocks access to GPT-4, which is OpenAI's most powerful language model. What does Claude have that ChatGPT doesn't? One big difference is a 100,000 token context window, which means it can process about 75,000 words at once. Tokens are fragments of words used while processing text. That means Claude can analyze longer documents or hold longer conversations without losing its memory of the subject at hand. ChatGPT can only process about 8,000 tokens in GPT-4 mode.
Anthropic's primary selling point for the Claude Pro subscription is "5x more usage," but the company doesn't clearly communicate what Claude's free-tier usage limits actually are. Dropping clues like cryptic breadcrumbs, the company has written a support document about the topic that says, "If your conversations are relatively short (approximately 200 English sentences, assuming your sentences are around 15-20 words), you can expect to send at least 100 messages every 8 hours, often more depending on Claude's current capacity. Over two thirds of all conversations on claude.ai (as of September 2023) have been within this length." In another somewhat cryptic statement, Anthropic writes, "If you upload a copy of The Great Gatsby, you may only be able to send 20 messages in that conversation within 8 hours." We're not attempting the math, but if you know the precise word count of F. Scott Fitzgerald's classic, it may be possible to glean Claude's actual limits. We reached out to Anthropic for clarification yesterday and have not received a response by press time.
Claude.ai is what Anthropic offers as its conversational interface for its Claude 2 AI language model, similar to how ChatGPT provides an application wrapper for the underlying models GPT-3.5 and GPT-4. In February, OpenAI chose a subscription route for ChatGPT Plus, which for $20 a month also gives early access to new features, but it also unlocks access to GPT-4, which is OpenAI's most powerful language model. What does Claude have that ChatGPT doesn't? One big difference is a 100,000 token context window, which means it can process about 75,000 words at once. Tokens are fragments of words used while processing text. That means Claude can analyze longer documents or hold longer conversations without losing its memory of the subject at hand. ChatGPT can only process about 8,000 tokens in GPT-4 mode.
Anthropic's primary selling point for the Claude Pro subscription is "5x more usage," but the company doesn't clearly communicate what Claude's free-tier usage limits actually are. Dropping clues like cryptic breadcrumbs, the company has written a support document about the topic that says, "If your conversations are relatively short (approximately 200 English sentences, assuming your sentences are around 15-20 words), you can expect to send at least 100 messages every 8 hours, often more depending on Claude's current capacity. Over two thirds of all conversations on claude.ai (as of September 2023) have been within this length." In another somewhat cryptic statement, Anthropic writes, "If you upload a copy of The Great Gatsby, you may only be able to send 20 messages in that conversation within 8 hours." We're not attempting the math, but if you know the precise word count of F. Scott Fitzgerald's classic, it may be possible to glean Claude's actual limits. We reached out to Anthropic for clarification yesterday and have not received a response by press time.
5x more usage only? clues like cryptic breadcrumbs (Score:4, Interesting)
First, why is it clues like cryptic breadcrumbs? Claude obviously limits by tokens and if you upload a huge document, it's a token eater and you'll reach your limits faster. Claude has 10K context window and so doesn't have to summarize and such like ChatGPT has to and so can burn tokens faster.
Also, only 5x usage? Should be unlimited. I do have to upload quite a few documents and then it hits limits. It's not all the time but when I need a specific feature, I don't want Claude to start hitting me with limits even after I'm a paying customer.
Again with the 10K context window and then limiting by token usage and then only giving 5x for pro users?
The API agreement feels like AOL. (Score:3, Interesting)
If anybody here is old enough to remember the AOL CD that connected you to a world of awesomeness, then that moment you found other ISPs that connect you to all the world of awesomeness without AOL, this moment in generative AI feels like that. AOL tried to exert too much control over what people experienced on the Internet and how, and ended up just getting thrown out of the way in the end. The excessive *safety* nonsense associated with all the AI feels like a ploy to over-manage the experience, like AOL. But at the end of the day what people need to make money with AI is a neutral, reliable platform, just like the Internet back in the day. Bard is one of the worst conversational experiences of all of them (Claude is my favorite) but it's already summarize web pages and connecting to up to the minute information, putting it already ahead of these safe, not-updated-since-2021 experiences. The neutral asset people can expect will always be there without the top level judgments that could risk your business income is what is needed now for people to be willing to grow businesses on top of AI, which will be good for the world.
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Can I just say that the programmer chat on AOL was really cool until they started using TOS (Terms of Service) to ban ppl?
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AOL was a bundled package of things no one wanted that cost more than direct ISPs, yet everyone used it retard. This because AOL successfully marketed their product as being the Internet. That is what is going on with AIs right now, there is the fundamental underlying thing, and ways people are trying to bundle things with it.
Only available in US and UK (Score:2)
Only available in US and UK so don't bother attempting to try the free version if you live in the rest of the world. Be nice to have these details in the story.
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Only available in US and UK so don't bother attempting to try the free version if you live in the rest of the world. Be nice to have these details in the story.
This is the greatest invention in human history. Why would we let anybody except the chosen ones get access to it? Just all risk with no reward.
Anthropic CEO probably ...
LLMs have produced or turned some bat-shiat crazy people.
"may" (Score:2)
"May." Another probabilistic story, but without any statement of probability.