Managing Money With Linux Apps 142
lisah writes, "As part of a series of special reports this week, Linux.com is reviewing several ways to manage your money using Linux apps. First up is a review of GnuCash 2.0, a personal and small business accounting package. Though it has a bit of a learning curve, the reviewer says the application is 'stable and robust' and an upgrade from previous versions is well worth it for the program's new features and improved online banking support." Linux.com and Slashdot are both part of OSTG.
GnuCash 2.0 (Score:5, Informative)
I have been using GnuCash 2.0 since it came out quite a few months ago and enjoying it since for all my personal finance book keeping needs.
GnuCash isn't "Linux" (Score:4, Informative)
Managing Money With Linux Apps
That should read "Managing money with a free open source application", since Gnucash runs on Linux, and numerous Unixes- including MacOS X (albeit in a very-poorly-integrated fashion.)
One thing that always bugged me about Gnucash- you have to pull OFX (or whatever) files by hand. Quicken could automatically fetch the latest data from my bank with a button click...
Also, are there any LiveCDs that contain up-to-date versions of Gnucash and associated libraries? On an intel mac, it's almost easier to run a virtual machine just for Gnucash, than spend hours upon hours of compiling with Fink...
Useful information (Score:2, Informative)
Re:GnuCash 2.0 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:GnuCash isn't "Linux" (Score:2, Informative)
At present, OFXDirectConnect can be used to download transaction data from credit card and bank accounts. Investment transactions should still be imported from downloaded OFX files (I use ofx.py) via GnuCash's File>Import>Import OFX/QFX... menu option.
Sounds like GnuCash 2 has solved most of the problem.
Re:GnuCash isn't "Linux" (Score:5, Informative)
The only issue is none of the banks really advertise the URL you need to use and type into gnucash. For example, discover card uses https://ofx.discovercard.com/ [discovercard.com], but good luck finding that on their site anywhere.
And citi bank you need to use
https://secureofx2.bankhost.com/citi/cgi-forte/of
I found those by searching on google.
But in any case, gnucash is a great program, in most cases better than the commercial alternatives.
Ask and ye shall receive. (Score:2, Informative)
http://www.lafn.org/~av832/ [lafn.org]
ShrinkingMan
http://debain.org/software/shrinkingman/ [debain.org]
Diet Monger Ass Kicker
http://freshmeat.net/projects/dmak/ [freshmeat.net]
Pydance
http://icculus.org/pyddr/ [icculus.org]
(dance dance revolution for Linux with dance pad support)
No you have no excuse to be a fat Linux looser. Soon you will be a regular Linux looser like everybody else, except of course you'd have very fast feet.
Moneydance rocks my stocks (Score:4, Informative)
Give it a whirl, it's worth the modest price. Platform independance for the win.
Another good alternative ... (Score:3, Informative)
It's easy to learn, use & configure.
More info there:
http://www.grisbi.org/index.en.html [grisbi.org] (en)
http://www.grisbi.org/index.es.html [grisbi.org] (es)
http://www.grisbi.org/index.fr.html [grisbi.org] (fr)
And already included in Debian/Ubuntu repos.
Re:keyboard shortcut for switching tabs in 2.0? (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Does it support budgetting? (Score:4, Informative)
Spreadsheet (Score:4, Informative)
I use it on Excel under Crossover, but I assume it can be done with KSpread, OO.o, Gnumeric, Google spreadsheet, or even VisiCalc... as long as it supports some simple formulas.
| A | B | C | D | E | F | G
0 | Description | Debit | Credit | Running Balance | Bank | Outstanding | Paid Out
1 | Deposit | | 300 | =(C1) | | |
2 | GAS | 30 | | =(D1 - B2 + C2) | | =if(E2="X",0,B2)| =if(E2="X",B2,0)
So now you just paste your formulas down the columns
When they show up on your bank statement, or in your electronic banking, put an X in column E, and the Outstanding value moves to Column G.
Who needs specialty accounting software when one of the oldest apps around can do it just fine?
Re:keyboard shortcut for switching tabs in 2.0? (Score:1, Informative)
Re:GnuCash 2.0 (Score:3, Informative)
Re:GnuCash 2.0 (Score:2, Informative)
There are some free-as-in-RMS alternatives that run fine in Windows.
I started out running GnuCash on Linux, but now that I spend most of my time in Windows I've switched to jGnash [sourceforge.net], a Java-based package that's based on the same principles. It's not as robust or feature-complete as GnuCash, but it does what I need, and it's far less of a pain than fiddling with X11.
Another alternative - Buddi (Score:1, Informative)
Buddi (http://buddi.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net]) is another free GPL budgeting program which I made to help budgeting. It is very simple and does not include a bunch of unused features; however, what it does it does well. It is written in Java 1.5. As of this past week, it is expandable via a plugin architecture, and there are a number of people currently working on plugins for it. If you want a simple budgeting program which does not require an accounting degree to use, this is for you.
There was recently a review of it at Ars Technica (http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2006/11 /5/5866 [arstechnica.com]).
Cheers
--Wyatt
Re:OO Calc or Excel (Score:4, Informative)
FAQ on F/OSS Finace (Score:3, Informative)
Learning curve? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Online data downloading. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Online data downloading. (Score:4, Informative)
Misunderstanding. (Score:4, Informative)
Double Entry basically means that when an amount is entered in one account, a corresponding amount is entered in another account. In the manual, paper based accounting days, it literally meant that the bookkeeper make two entries in the ledger - one in the source account, and one in the destination account. As you can imagine, this would be a major source of errors. In all computer based double entry accounting systems the bookkeeper will only enter the number once, and will choose the source and destination accounts. The computer would take care of making the actual entries in both accounts - eliminating one source of errors.
So, do not be confused. Gnucash is doing double entry accounting: always has been, always will be.
Perhaps you're thinking of a single line leger (where all the transaction information is on one line) vs. a multi line leger (where the transaction information is spread across multiple lines). That is merely a style choice.
Re:GnuCash 2.0 (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Moneydance rocks my stocks (Score:2, Informative)
Budget on MacOSX- (Score:3, Informative)
Didn't like Quicken.
I looked at moneydance 2-3 years ago, and it also was lacking.
None of these support the "envelope" method of budgeting, which IMHO, is the best way to manage your home finances.
Fortunately I found "Budget" from http://www.snowmintcs.com/ [snowmintcs.com] which works great on MacOSX.
Re:Moneydance rocks my stocks (Score:3, Informative)
Why use Moneydance over free as in beer Money or Quicken?
In addition, Moneydance is a great little company as well as a nice app. Support is excellent and the developers are friendly and helpful. At this point, Gnucash may be a reasonable alternative, but when I moved away from Quicken three years ago, Gnucash wasn't really an option. At this point, neither Moneydance nor Gnucash give me any reason to change.
Re:Very interesting. (Score:5, Informative)