IBM Asks Court to Toss SCO's Entire Case 230
Lost+Found writes "After three and a half years of case proceedings, summary judgement motions have been submitted in the highly controversial SCO v. IBM case. SCOX shares took a loss of 18.75%, or $0.39, to close at $1.69. IBM shares rose 0.97%, a gain of $0.79, to close at $82.00. From the article: 'Both sides in SCO v. IBM have filed motions for summary judgment. To be precise, SCO has filed one for partial summary judgment and IBM has filed several motions for summary judgment, one for each of SCO's claims and two more for good measure on two of IBM's counterclaims. In other words, it is asking the court to throw out SCO's entire case, and to grant it judgment on two counterclaims without even going to trial on those two.' More motions for summary judgement from SCO against IBM counterclaims are currently being uncovered at Groklaw."
The meter continues to run .... (Score:5, Interesting)
Summary Judgement (Score:3, Interesting)
They could do it by scheduling a news conference, and taking that One US Dollar and placing it into a pretty frame, and the SCO attorneys would drool all over it and believe that they actually won something.
Jeeze.. just stick a fork in them - they are done.
The perfect Iceing (Score:4, Interesting)
Wouldn't that be the perfect iceing on SCO's cake!
Legal Extortion (Score:3, Interesting)
One can only hope that this case will prevent "Legal Extorion" from occuring in the future; but alas, that is just wishful thinking... IBM is a big rich company. If SCO were to come after a small fish like you or I, would we have the money to defend ourselves the way IBM did? I seriously doubt it. More than likely, had SCO sued me directly, I would have run out of financial resources trying to defend myself, and would have capitulated. SCO probably would have gotten summary judgement against me and precedents in case law would have been set. The sad thing is, had SCO has smarter lawyers, they wouldn't have tried to take on a big fish like IBM, but would have sued a very small company with few finanical resources to defend themselves. Once a precedent has been set, they could have laughed all the way to the bank. Believe it or not, the legal system is full of cases which many would consider "Legal Extortion" (ie. Pay up now, or face an expensive and lenghty lawsuit). One industry I can think of where many hungry lawyers prey upon is the California Real Estate market. Which brings me back to a headline I once saw on a magazine for lawyers in California. The headline read: "Mold is GOLD!", meaning that the common practice of bringing in an environmentalist to find 'mold' in a home and then turning around and suing the former homeowner for not disclosing the potentially hazardous condition that is causing the new occupants all sorts of numerous ailments, is worth big bucks to many california lawyers.
Here's hoping that this case will help the little guy... but I'm not gonna hold by breath!
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How far can IBM go? (Score:4, Interesting)
Or can it pull an SCO trick itself? I mean just claim that the original investors were just legal extortionists and file a case against them and bleed them and give them a taste of their own medecine?
Reform (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The meter continues to run .... (Score:3, Interesting)
BTW: Novell's outside law firm also has quite a reputation and shortens their name for their internet domain and email addresses to "MoFo."
Re:Summary Judgement - like Ford (Score:1, Interesting)
IIRC, Boies argued against Microsoft .... (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Summary Judgement (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The meter continues to run .... (Score:4, Interesting)
Just goes to prove that there is no such thing as good/evil/right/wrong as far litigation is concerned. It is only successfull vs unsuccessful.
Frankly, when SCO hired him my first thoughts were "they want their stock to go up". While his early courtroom showings (old case of IBM vs govt, etc) were good he has not won a significant case for a long time. At the same time every single one of his cases has generated a significant "positive" publicity for his client before losing. DOJ practically lost DOJ vs MSFT, Gore election case was also lost, etc. He may still win something for them, but the amount of stock rise and initial buzz around his participation in the case is clearly disproportional to his actual achievement.
Well, that's the real trick (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm guessing no one at SCO is going to volunteer for federal ass-pounding prison if there's a way to drag some MSFT execs into the case with them.
I agree with your whole post 100%, but this is the tricky part.
Let's say all goes as IBM has planned and SCO gets their collective asses handed to them in court. And the SEC goes after them for insider trading once the whole case is settled and made public.
What next?
Exactly how do you draw a line between MS and the greybar hotel? Yeah, MS did finance the whole thing pretty much through Baystar. But investment isn't illegal.
I think you'd pretty much have to prove somehow that MS was giving them the money with the foreknowledge that they would use it to break the law. That would be seriously difficult to prove. And even then, it would be a corporation that was guilty - not individuals. The whole thing would work out to a fine at the worst, and MS is pretty famous for simply paying those off. The price of the ticket isn't a deterrant to these people.
IANAL, but that's how it seems to me.
Re:The meter continues to run .... (Score:1, Interesting)
(And, there are many exceptions to all of the above, but I think on the whole it's true.)
(And, yes, IAAL.)
So . . . been working for SCO long? (Score:2, Interesting)
SCO was hoping that the "Big Boys" (IBM, Microsoft, HP, SUN) would knuckle under in return for a sweetheart deal (the previously mentioned "One Dollar", or some similarly trivial figure for the "Big Boys" to pony up). Hellfire, I'm sure SCO would've settled for no remuneration from the "Big Boys", if they could only have gotten their hands on a legal judgement that they really do own all the *NIX code on Earth.
IBM doesn't want to crush SCO, they just don't want to be crushed by a mosquito with delusions of grandeur.
Re:Summary Judgement (Score:3, Interesting)
In other words, just because the muscle we are seeing is being used for a good cause this time doesn't mean that we should be complacent about how it might be used in the future. Just because your beliefs about software licensing happen to coincide with IBM's in this instance does not mean that that harmony will endure.
Re:The meter continues to run .... (Score:3, Interesting)