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Matt Damon as Kirk in Star Trek XI? 594

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GiggidyGiggidy writes "Our friends at IMDB.com are reporting that Matt Damon has been cast to play a young James T. Kirk in the new Star Trek Movie directed by J.J. Abrams. Is this the end of the Star Trek series we fans know and love, or the beginning of something bigger and better for the series?"
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Matt Damon as Kirk in Star Trek XI?

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  • Now, get Sinise. (Score:4, Interesting)

    by krell (896769) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @01:58PM (#15841215) Journal
    I just read a few weeks ago about Damon being discussed as Kirk for JMS's now-gone Star Trek project. I thought it sounded like a good idea, and (for better or worse) the Shat himself approved of the choice.

    Now they need to sign Gary Sinise as McCoy. Hopefully, they can keep Affleck out. He has the superficial look and the emotionless demeanor necessary for Spock, but brings nothing else.
  • New Voyages (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Rob T Firefly (844560) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @02:37PM (#15841581) Homepage Journal
    I've already got my personally accepted spinoff continuation of the original "Star Trek," and it's written, produced, and acted by real fans with talent [newvoyages.com]. Those guys produce winning, pro-grade Star Trek while Paramount has displayed a complete lack of knowing what the hell to do with it.
  • Re:At first. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by monoqlith (610041) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @02:51PM (#15841700)
    or proof that he's just more forgettable?
  • by ClayJar (126217) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @03:46PM (#15842159) Homepage
    Nice to see another Babylon 5 fan in here, but for those that don't know, "Baywatch meets Wrestling in Space" is how jms described what TNT wanted Crusade to be. He would not allow it to be so, which directly lead to TNT aborting it before it even began its run. See the original CIS post [jmsnews.net] for reference.

    (And to appease the topic furies, I find it very difficult to see Matt Damon as Kirk, but then again, The Bourne Identity wasn't half bad, so I'm willing to give him a chance, as long as Berman The Barbarian isn't involved in any way.)
  • Re:I liked DS9. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by TheGreatGraySkwid (553871) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @04:02PM (#15842269) Homepage
    Sounds exactly like the complaints of someone who didn't watch the last two seasons of Enterprise.

    Yeah, the first season sucked. Guess what, the unforgiving nature of "die-hard" fans screwed the rest of us out of what became one of the best SF series of recent years. If ever a show deserved a second chance, it was that one.
  • Re:I liked DS9. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 03, 2006 @04:40PM (#15842564)
    Are you shitting me?

    An ongoing story arc and significant character development was precisely what happened to DS9 toward the end!

    Their 'ongoing story arc' was actually "lets write some different aliens into the war so we can drag it on.. while we're at it, let's make them really powerful yet totally unknown!" Which, to me, screams 'plot device'.

    And the 'significant character development' was just the writers getting more and more obvious about the (previously) subtle character archetypes: Cisco as the religious Savior figure, Du'Kat (sp) as the religious Evil figure.. I would call it character un-development.

    I prefer the early seasons, when there was friction between characters. The slow sanding away of that tension was the good character development. As it goes on, we see more stereotypical roles from the cast.

    I mean, seriously, Kira had more venom for the Federation in the first season than she had for the Dominion after they took over DS9.
  • Re:Oh, Yes! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Decaff (42676) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @04:59PM (#15842705)
    Just tack 50 years onto the end of the Voyager series, and go with that. Heck, go back to the Delta Quadrant with a new super-duper engine.

    Why not make a series where a crew get to go out of the galaxy. In the Star Trek Universe our galaxy was seeded with life that would generally turn out humanoid. That saves on special effects, but now that is not a problem.

    Here is my idea: Star Trek: Magellan - named for the great traveller. Set decades after Voyager; a colony fleet is sent to the Large Magellanic Cloud - a satellite galaxy of our own. Take a vast and fast carrier ship (The Magellan), running on autopilot for, say 50 years. The crew wake up, ready to explore and terraform and colonise. The crew is interesting. Holograms now have sentient rights, and there are borg members (like the Klingons in TNG, they are no longer enemies). Communication with our galaxy is slow and difficult. They meet real aliens, not just humanoids with different foreheads.....
  • Re:Oh, Yes! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday August 03, 2006 @05:16PM (#15842822)
    Hmmm.

    Personally I wish they'd do a series on the seedier side of life in th Star Trek universe. Perhaps with the grandson of Harry Mudd.
  • by khasim (1285) <brandioch.conner@gmail.com> on Thursday August 03, 2006 @05:37PM (#15842957)
    Now, mind you, they did a bad job of integrating the personal stuff with the action stuff (BSG does a DAMNED good job of this), but it was the first good step in the direction of humanistic sci-fi.

    The problem with Star Trek is that the action is the means for the characters to "win". Yeah, that sounds really basic and stupid, but think about it for a moment.

    Some naive, young cadet leave Star Fleet Acadamy for his/her first space ship assignment. That character SHOULD have a completely different outlook and personality than the captain of that ship.

    Now, after 30 years of space battles, friends being eaten by alien energy beings, etc..., that cadet, now in charge of his own ship, might have an outlook and personality very close to the original captain's ... but it is the ACTION that shaped him during those 30 years.

    In most of the Star Trek episodes, the characters already know the "right" thing to do. The action just implements that and reinforces that their decisions are "right" and that the opposition is "evil" or "mis-guided" or whatever.

    Meanwhile, in real life, people have to make tough choices and the consequences of those choices change our outlook and affect the choices we make after that.
  • I want Ben Affleck (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Ranger (1783) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @06:04PM (#15843131) Homepage
    No, Dammit! I want Ben Affleck. He is every bit as bad an actor as William Shatner. Let's see who do I want for Spock? Hmmm. Here is the cast I want.

    Kirk - Ben Affleck
    Spock - Tom Cruise
    McCoy - Matthew McConaughey
    Scotty - Hugh Jackman
    Uhura - Halle Berry
    Yeoman Rand - Tricia Helfer
    Nurse Chapel - Pamela Anderson
    Checkov - Wil Wheaton
    Sulu - Daniel Dae Kim
  • Better Idea (Score:2, Interesting)

    by WCD_Thor (966193) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @06:14PM (#15843176) Homepage
    Shouldn't they just make a new series, instead of having new actors playing the same old characters?! Seems like a new starship as the main focus would be good right about now.
  • Re:Oh, Yes! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by seminumerical (686406) <{seminumerical} {at} {gmail.com}> on Thursday August 03, 2006 @07:26PM (#15843498)
    Personally I am tired of the ST Universe. I want Science Fiction, emphasis on science. Phasers are just blasters from 40s or 50s pulp fiction, warp speed is a tired imitation of the WW2 Navy movies, where the captain had to think hard about the fuel/delta t trade off where the drag is proportional to velocity cubed. Warp is not Science fiction, it is elves in middle earth fantasy. I am tired of "subspace" communication (someone just heard the word in his linear algebra course before he dropped out and became a screen writer), tired of every planet being "class M", having a gravity of 10 m/s/s and a breathable atmosphere. I am especially tired of low budget aliens. Makeup does not make an alien, any more than assigning them the characteristics of some earth culture makes them alien. We've had Viking/Moslem warrior aliens, Seidenstraße aliens, Greek mythology aliens (and also vomitous magical "Q" aliens that remove the need for any coherent SF) ... Aieee!!! ...

    Remember when science fiction was fun and the characters two dimensional? Remember when they travelled at sub light speeds around the solar system where there was no artificial gravity? Clarke's 2001, A Fall of Moondust, Rendezvous with Rama, Heinlein's "The Rolling Stones" and many more. We have the technology to make a coherent near future SF TV series, using the actual properties of our planets, with Lagrange colonies, pioneer colonies, mining operations on Mercury, slow freighters and liners using economy orbits and fast (expensively anti-matter powered) "Federation" ships busy about the system.

    How many of us learned the basic (incorrect) properties of the planets from those books? Now let's do it again with Mercury's real day, and a non-tropical Venus. Settle the moons and adventure in space.

    It is not for us. It is for that Aspergers 14 year old guy who is awkward with girls but knows the ABCs of Relativity; the one in the generation coming up fast behind us. Let us relive SF through his (yes his) eyes.

    There can still be a 7 of 9 character so that he will have an imaginative, once removed from reality, sex life.

  • Re:Oh, Yes! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Bing Tsher E (943915) on Thursday August 03, 2006 @09:55PM (#15844077) Journal

    SciFi isn't all sharks with lasers attached to their heads.

    Furthermore, good SF almost exclusively is not television

    Yes. I've started reading old John Brunner novels again. And Fredrick Pohl and other good stuff.
  • by master_p (608214) on Friday August 04, 2006 @04:14AM (#15845149)
    Star Trek is about the future of humanity...a future where humans have grown out of their primitive instincts, have overcomed materialism and greed, religion and general stupidity.

    Star Trek is about exploration of space...exploring new interstellar mysteries, new star configurations, new planets, new formations.

    Star Trek is about science...its advantages and disadvantages, and what limits there exists in science, and if machines can be made to reach human status.

    Star Trek is about society...how relations between humans evolve, what new structures can society have, how science affects the structure of society.

    Star Trek is about ecology...do we destroy a planet because there are the bad guys (and take a whole new ecosystem down) or we find other ways to solve the problem?

    Star Trek has lost all the above after DS9! It all became an mindless adventure in space in Voyager/Enterprise...and thus the audience lost interest.

    A Star Trek show does not need to be dumbfounded or appeal to the lowest common denominator in order to be successful. A Star Trek show needs to be intelligent and thought-provoking.

    The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine series where exactly that. Through clever story telling, the following subjects were negotiated:

    -god and religion (in the episode where Picard was thought to be a god).
    -language and the process of thinking (Darmok; one of the best episodes of TNG)
    -if machines have rights (the episode where Lt Cmdr Data was on trial)
    -if machines can interact with people (when Data was in a relationship)
    -terrorism (many episodes, including TNG where the terrorists could appear out of thin air)
    -political systems (many episodes, especially in DS9, from imperialistic Cardassia to semi-socialist Bajor)
    -economic systems (the double episode in DS9 where Sisko goes back in time and gets sheltered in a homeless area)
    -spying (the role of Darak in DS9)
    -new races (many of episodes)
    -new interstellar phenomena (for example a Dyson sphere)
    -relationships (father-son in Picard-Crusher, Sisko and son, O'Brien and wife etc)
    -war and its consequences (too many episodes to list)
    -archeology (when Picard chased ancient artifacts)

    All the above topics, and many more, were presented, some times naively, but most of the time in a very clever way, within a clever story. And Then Star Trek was successful.

    What did we get with Enteprise, for example? and endless stream of save-the-world adventures, with none of the essence presented in TNG and DS9. And a silly story about an alien race hellbent to destroy Earth (the Xindi), no matter what...at least the Borg wanted to assimilate us, and that was interesting.

    So, here is a message to Star Trek producers: if all you want is a cash cow, don't bother and let it die. If you want to share a message (along with profit, I don't deny that), then bring in interesting people to write the show and let them deploy their ideas.

    And don't be politically correct, for Christ's shake! remember that the first interracial on screen kiss was between Kirk and Uhura!

  • by Fantastic Lad (198284) on Friday August 04, 2006 @08:01AM (#15845606)
    J.J. Abrams would be producing this monster.

    That's right! The producer of such wonders as the CIA recruitment video, "Alias" Where the guy playing the psychopathic creep father of the main character just 'happens' to look [geocities.com] like Bush [geocities.com] when made up and lighted just so, (and always at those emotionally intense points where the insertion of subliminal ideas works best!) Ah, Alias! The CIA boasted merrily of the sudden huge spike in the number of resumes received from young people wanting to look pretty and act like psychopaths for the American government after Abrams' dippy spy show started airing.

    And "Lost", Abrams' other wonder-show where, like "Alias" the story idea is kinda neat and fun to watch, (like eating high MSG corn chips), but where the writers' collective grasp of and insight into the human condition is weak and shallow at best and where the emotional hooks are so incredibly obvious and formulaic, I could found myself actively complaining to the television set.

    So, Homeland Security sellout and purveyor of shallow Walmart characters. . , do we want this man contributing to Star Trek?

    I know my answer.


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