Start-Up Delivers Open Source Offerings to Build User Base 40
The new wiki start-up founded by former Microsoft employees, MindTouch, has just announced two new open source offerings to help bolster their user base. MindTouch Dream, a development framework and Deki, a wiki-based document sharing program that was built using Dream, will both be debuted at this year's OSCON, currently underway. From the article: "Applications written with MindTouch Dream can be done in PHP or .Net languages such as C# or Visual Basic. Programs can run on Microsoft Windows machines or Novell's Mono software for running .Net applications on Linux or Unix."
Cool idea - hope they displace SharePoint (Score:2)
Windows Admin Tools [intelliadmin.com]
Re:Cool idea - hope they displace SharePoint (Score:2)
Actual links? (Score:4, Informative)
http://opengarden.org/ [opengarden.org]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki [wikimedia.org]
Re:Actual links? (Score:1)
Hurts more than an exploding dell laptop.
MindTouch Dream? (Score:5, Interesting)
FTA:
Applications written with MindTouch Dream can be done in PHP or
I'm having a hard time understanding what MindTouch Dream actually provides. Is it a development environment framework? A IDE? It isn't clear to me how an application written in "MindTouch Dream" can also be PHP -or-
Deki on the otherhand is clear to me, it is a port of MediaWiki http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki [mediawiki.org] with extensions and provisions for managing Microsoft documents, AJAX support, and exposure as a Web service (REST based).
All in all, I'm a little confused as to the exact value this release brings, other than some better support for M$ based content environments.
Re:MindTouch Dream? (Score:3, Informative)
I got the impression from the article that their current wiki offering is a Wikimedia mod, but that Deki is a new bespoke development based around their Dream development environment.
Which would make Deki something new and possibly different and definitely of interest.
Re:MindTouch Dream? (Score:3, Informative)
I think they're taking a page from the marketing book for .NET. It took me a couple years to figure out what .NET actually is/does (hint: it's a marketing term for a whole bunch of unrelated or at best loosely-related products and marketing campaigns -- What exactly does the .NET f
Re:MindTouch Dream? (Score:3, Funny)
So it's like "Web 2.0", then? Thanks!
Re:MindTouch Dream? (Score:4, Insightful)
It is indeed vague, and since their site is thoroughly slashdotted right now, it will remain so if and until I remember to check it out later.
Support for MS document formats is, however, a pretty big deal. If I had a dollar for every time an OSS solution was rejected in my workplace because it didn't support MS docs, I'd have enough money to buy a legitimate copy of Windows XP. Some people regard playing nice with MS software to be some kind of impurity or treason, but as a practical matter, it provides for easy inroads to business environments.
Re:MindTouch Dream? (Score:3, Insightful)
I guess I am one of those people who don't see the point of building a wiki that consists of uploading DOC files. It defeats the purpose of a wiki in the first place. At that point it's a CMS and virtually every CMS will let you upload documents of any type.
Re:MindTouch Dream? (Score:3, Interesting)
So don't be surprised to find many a Windows shop using wiki's just for uploading MS-DOC files or other silly things.
LoB
Oh Noes! (Score:2, Funny)
Now I understand (Score:4, Funny)
now I understand why they don't work at MS anymore
they got canned
Re:Now I understand (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Now I understand (Score:1, Insightful)
More MS innovation eh? (Score:3, Funny)
Yeah. Quick, think of ten other software houses that this could have ever been said about.
They ALMOST Get It (Score:5, Funny)
Re:They ALMOST Get It (Score:2, Interesting)
Or are you trying to imply that there's no need for users of MS documents to share their documents?
Or perhaps that because they're interfacing with a proprietary format they might as well give up all hope of being Open Source? That the two can't live together?
Re:They ALMOST Get It (Score:1)
Re:They ALMOST Get It (Score:1)
MediaWiki (Score:1, Informative)
They dont have a choice. Media Wiki is released under GPL. As per GPL terms, derivatives of MediaWiki also be released under GPL. Otherwise they can be sued for GPL
Formula for success, 100% guarantee (Score:2, Funny)
2. Open source it and hype it to death in Slashdot
3. ?
4. Profit
Actually if you are clever, you can skip the part one, and just hype it to death and move to profit, also known as IPO.
Why didn't I invent this idea?
A shame about the plagiarism (Score:1, Interesting)
http://opengarden.org/dream [opengarden.org]
http://www.dropsend.com/ [dropsend.com]
Re:A shame about the plagiarism (Score:1)
Re:A shame about the plagiarism (Score:2, Interesting)
Start-Up Uses Slashdot Article to Build User Base (Score:1)
GPL Interpretation (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:GPL Interpretation (Score:2)
I dont mind companies having that as a license; but it should really be called something like "server GPL", because it is as different from classic GPL as LGPL is, and it should be separated
It really annoys me when people reinterpret things like this, MySQL deserve special mention, IMO, as in their view if you access a database by any means, you need a license. They do this as their business model needs people to pay for licenses, but it still isnt classic GPL.
-steve
Also with AJAX based open source word processors (Score:1, Interesting)
worst headline and summary EVAR (Score:4, Insightful)