How Google Manages Click Fraud 130
Finin writes "In February 2005, Google was sued by Lane's Gifts & Collectibles in a class-action lawsuit over click fraud. The company alleged that Google had been improperly billing for pay-per-click ads that were not viewed by legitimate potential customers. As part of a settlement earlier this year, Google agreed to have an independent expert examine their click fraud detection methods, policies, and procedures and make a determination of whether or not they were reasonable measures to protect advertisers. The report of the expert, NYU Information Systems Professor Alexander Tuzhilin (a Professor of Information Systems at NYU), is now available." Update 07/26/2006 at 12:52 GMT by SM: Fixed the link to Tuzhilin's report.
Re:Enron (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:From the objections_response (Score:3, Insightful)
The number itself might be unreasonable, but not the fact that the damages are more than the income.
Billboards (Score:3, Insightful)
Advertisers will pay for a billboard without any guarantee from the advertising company about how many people will drive past the sign, how many of those will read it, how many will take the information in and act on it. The client is assumed to be taking a risk in that regard.
Over time people decide for themselves whether a particular type of advertising is working for them. If the business keeps coming in why should there be a need for this type of analysis?
Re:Enron (Score:4, Insightful)
Google make pots of money because AdWords does result in a good return on investment relative to other forms of advertising.
Consider this. Imagine a fictional company that spends $10,000/month with Google on advertising, and is completely happy with the service because it results in lots of leads and sales. So it is actually profitable to spend this money. There are many companies in exactly this situation. Does it matter if 90% of clicks are fraudulent (which is probably not going to happen unless you are being deliberately targetted by a competitor)? If you are still getting a great ROI then no it doesn't matter. The invalid clicks are just noise.
Google does produce something valuable if not physical - it produces a ton of people viewing websites who then go onto buy things. Same as any form of advertising. Except the relevance of AdWords makes it more valuable than most.
Academic community (Score:2, Insightful)
community to do this study.
The most the study says is that the algorithms the Google
uses are good to detect click fraud. It does not give any clue on
how much fraud is not detected by the algorithms.
Re:Billboards (Score:5, Insightful)
But "outdoor advertising" firms make no representations that they can measure these things. You know what you're getting when you buy space on a billboard. AdWords is different because Google sells it with claims that they can track these things (indeed, they bill you based on the results of that tracking). If Google's click tracking is inaccurate, you aren't getting what you thought you were getting. That's the difference.
Re:google future (Score:3, Insightful)
The additional projects are just R&D with a very public face. They offer great brand exposure. They give Google's software team lots of experience dealing with the realities of building and maintaining software that thousands to millions of people use every day. They keep the company from developing tunnel vision. And in some cases they've put Microsoft on the defensive, so it has to spend time and resources defending its own markets rather than trying to take over Google's market.
Those are all solid and reasonable benefits for the company, even if none of the projects can ever be turned into a direct-revenue cash cow.
And if one of those projects happens to hit the combination of factors that does allow it to turn into The Next Big Thing, the payoff from that one winner will more than cover the cost of all the other research along the way.
Re:Statistics about click fraud shown to Adwords u (Score:5, Insightful)
Jonah HEX
Re:Billboards (Score:4, Insightful)
I don't think many people expect every adwords click to result in a sale for the advertiser. Instead, people just check to see whether there's a correlation between 'more adwords clicks' and 'more sales'. If 100 adwords clicks produce 30 additional sales, you can say that the adwords are 30% effective. Then it's up to you to decide whether those 30 additional sales are worth the cost of those 100 clicks. If so, you can write 70% of their adwords fee off as a cost of doing business. If not, you can close your adwords account, or lower the amount you're willing to pay per click.
If Google was padding its numbers, people would see lower return rates from their adwords accounts. Those people would then be less willing to pay for the service. They wouldn't expand their accounts to cover other words.
In other words, there's already a feedback mechanism that punishes Google for any loss of efficiency in its adwords program, and rewards Google for providing the best results it can.
Re:From the objections_response (Score:3, Insightful)
Really? Aren't the damages in this particular case supposed to be fees that advertisers paid to Google that they shouldn't have paid? If that's true, how can the plaintiff attorneys allege that the damages for click fraud exceed the total revenue that Google has taken in during it's entire lifetime?
NOTE: I'm not saying your wrong. I just don't understand. Can you clarify?
Re:Thinking about stuff (Score:3, Insightful)
"Probably. Besides, why would the user ever pick that last option?" (The last option being to download the ad and the ad's linked page, without displaying either.
If you really don't like ads, or especially a certain type (say, flash-based or pop-up-based ads), then the option to have the link "clicked" and cost the advertiser money without giving them any benefit might be appealing to the users of the ad-blocking software.
Personally, I like text-based meaningful ads like the ones Google provides, but can't stand the intrusive pop-ups, and would like to see a means of discouraging their use. How can following a link to a legal site be illegal?
Re:Statistics about click fraud shown to Adwords u (Score:1, Insightful)
Click Validation will be required soon (Score:1, Insightful)
When it comes Truly validating Paid Clicks from any search engine, there are some critical points that you are missing and need to pay attention to.
This form of advertising is in its infancy and as we progress to an industry standard of Validating this space please remember the following:
1. Do you really think that it is in Google's Best Interest or in the Business plan to actively seek out invalid clicks or click fraud?
2. Every other advertising form in the Media has a 3rd party Validator, Checking the data on behalf of the advertiser. Television has Nielsen, Radio has Arbitron, etc. Even Accounting has SOX. Presently, only the Search Engine is the final arbitrator of credits or refunds. The industry needs to progress to this model eventually to give PPC advertisers peace of mind.
3. The search engine can only see click information up to the point where the ad is clicked- there are other attributes once the click goes into your sight (behavior wise) that the search engine cannot see but the Advertiser has data for. This gap needs to be reconciled by both parties.
Another alternative if this is not reasonable is to continue to let the bank balance your checkbook without checking it yourself.