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Indian Satellite Lost in Launch Explosion 208

An anonymous reader writes "BBC News is reporting that the recent communications satellite launch in India has met with disaster. The satellite, designed to enhance India's telephone and communications network, was lost when the rocket carrying it veered off course and exploded. This is the second disappointment in recent launch attempts, coming just one day after the failed long-range ballistic missile test launch."
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Indian Satellite Lost in Launch Explosion

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  • by Erwos ( 553607 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @06:41PM (#15702003)
    I'm not surprised. It sounds easy to launch a rocket (hell, we've been doing it since forever, right?), yet in the light of this failure, North Korea's blown ICBM launch, and SpaceX's spectacular failure a while back, perhaps the difficulty of such things needs to be reassessed in the minds of the average Slashdot reader.

    Certainly, the ESA and NASA have something to be proud of when they actually manage to get stuff into orbit :).

    -Erwos
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @06:42PM (#15702006)
    I have a lot of respect for countries which have a space program and attempt to launch rockets into space, whether they succeed or not.
  • Re:disappointment? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by grapeape ( 137008 ) <mpope7@kc.r r . com> on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @06:45PM (#15702026) Homepage
    Actually it was one day after India tested their missile.

    From the Article:
    "It came a day after a test-fire of India's longest-range nuclear-capable ballistic missile ended in failure."

    Yep, it didnt get much press, guess no one cared since it was a "friendly" country testing this time.
  • Re:well (Wrong) (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ZSpade ( 812879 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @06:53PM (#15702079) Homepage
    Outsourced the shuttle to a private company [wikipedia.org]
    Nasa is looking to outsource even more! [msn.com]
    The article title made me laugh in light of your comment. [fcw.com]

    Like almost every other branch of the government, NASA does outsource. They contract out the building of almost any sort of vehicle out to private companies who are all competing for it.

    Now if you think I'm just picking apart your statement for fun, you're only half right, look at this:
    [indiadaily.com]
    In light of this article, scary.
  • by mukund ( 163654 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @07:04PM (#15702145) Homepage

    It certainly isn't as easy as it looks but it's certainly cheaper (and hence easier in this case) than it costs. The Nazis under Hitler were producing V2 rockets at the rate of about 800/month which cost orders of magnitude lower [about $13,000 / rocket after the first 5000 according to the article linked below] than current rockets back in the 1940s and which could reach low Earth orbit. Modern rockets are definitely better equipped, but still the costs for unmanned rocketry can be brought down a LOT if more launches were made and the error margin was allowed to be lowered a bit.

    (Granted, this commentry is about launchers that put payload in low Earth orbits, and the Indian rocket was likely one which put payload in a GTO. The point still is valid.)

    John Walker has a good article [fourmilab.ch] about this.

  • Re:disappointment? (Score:2, Insightful)

    by voice_of_all_reason ( 926702 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @07:04PM (#15702146)
    Yep, it didnt get much press, guess no one cared since it was a "friendly" country testing this time.

    Some animals are more equal than others.
  • by EvanED ( 569694 ) <{evaned} {at} {gmail.com}> on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @07:04PM (#15702147)
    What you say is true. Actually, last night I arrived back home after spending about 3 weeks at Norway's Andoya Rocket Range where a little over a week ago there was the launch of a sounding rocket I helped build the payload for as a project at college. Our launch was in conjunction with another launch from actual scientists in Europe called HotPay1. The HotPay launch came 26 minutes after ours. Unfortunately, 7 to 8 seconds into flight either the payload broke off the motor or the motor broke in half. (As of last I heard, they weren't sure what happened.) So these things still do NOT always go well.

    And that was just a single stage sounding rocket too; not even in the same category as an orbital flight.

    P.S. I'd have started this post with "you might even say 'it IS rocket science" but another poster took that joke already...
  • Re:well (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dracken ( 453199 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @07:32PM (#15702286) Homepage
    Maybe you should read this [newscientist.com].

    "India's six remote-sensing satellites - the largest such constellation in the world. These monitor the country's land and coastal waters so that scientists can advise rural communities on the location of aquifers and where to find watercourses, suggest to fishermen when to set sail for the best catch, and warn coastal communities of imminent storms (see "Eyes in the sky"). India's seven communication satellites, the biggest civilian system in the Asia-Pacific region, now reach some of the remotest corners of the country, providing television coverage to 90 per cent of the population. The system is also being used to extend remote healthcare services and education to the rural poor."

    Or this about PSLV [wikipedia.org]

    "It was developed to allow India to launch its Indian Remote Sensing (IRS) satellites into sun synchronous orbits, a service that was, until the advent of the PSLV, commercially viable only from Russia"
  • by ScrewMaster ( 602015 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @07:57PM (#15702406)
    Well, military applications aside, the truth of the matter is that satellites of all kinds have had a tremendous positive impact on economies and populations the world over. Communications, weather-monitoring, resource exploitation, scientific research ... no, I can't fault India for trying to use near-space to its advantage. Why not ... everyone else is. Besides, if you want to alleviate issues of social networking and education (two big steps towards improving living conditions in general) advanced communications are important. Satellite technology is one way to get that, and given the size and population of India, I would rather think that building out surface infrastructure would be prohibitively expensive, at least in the near term. Hell, it took the United States decades and billions of dollars to put a phone in every house, and I don't think India wants to wait that long.
  • Re:well (Score:5, Insightful)

    by rts008 ( 812749 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @08:02PM (#15702432) Journal
    Very good reply! Well done.
    This is what keeps me coming back to /. when I decide to give up on it due to the inane, kneejerk, blatant fanboy, etc. posts that are getting more numerous all the time.

    Your post was:
    concise, informative, not insulting/derogatory, and directly addressed the point.
    I heartily give you A+ since I have no mod points to give. :)
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @08:18PM (#15702507)
    You don't ask, you _notify_. As sorry as that is, them's the facts. :)
  • by t35t0r ( 751958 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @08:23PM (#15702536)
    we'll get it right eventually. The US didn't get it right the first couple of times either.
  • by timeOday ( 582209 ) on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @08:37PM (#15702583)
    So what? I'd still go, and I think many others would volunteer for a one-way mission as well.
    Not me. Frankly there are many more interesting places on Earth I haven'tseen yet (for that matter, India itself). The reason nobody has been to the moon for the last few decades is mainly because there's nothing much up there.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @09:29PM (#15702769)
    I don't know where to start. Let's see:

    1) India is a sovereign country. Enough said.

    2) India lets all its neighbours know of the missile tests in advance.

    3) India is a democracy, unlike its neighburs. Enough said.

    4) India has a no-first use policy as far as Nukular Weapons are concerned.

    5) India has enough (internal) things to worry about. "War on Terror" anyone?

    You know, for all the high IQs around here, I am disappointed.
  • Re:disappointment? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by grapeape ( 137008 ) <mpope7@kc.r r . com> on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @10:02PM (#15702902) Homepage
    Of course I dont see them as equal as far as relations with most of the world. However, with the sabre rattling that India and Pakistan have engaged in over the past couple years, im not real thrilled about either of them having Nukes either. Its been relatively quiet lately but it was only a short while ago that their bickering was quickly elevating to complete lunacy.
  • Re:well (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Kadin2048 ( 468275 ) <slashdot.kadin@xox y . net> on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @10:30PM (#15703011) Homepage Journal
    While I'm always up for an opportunity to bolster my sense of baseless, nationalistic superiority, NASA's had some strings of bad luck, too.

    The Loss of Mars Observer [msss.com]. Oops.
    Whatever Happened to the Mars Polar Lander? [space.com] Double Oops.
    NASA's metric confusion caused Mars orbiter loss [cnn.com]. Durh...

    Space exploration -- even just putting stuff into orbit -- is a risky proposition at the best of times. Any agency pushing the envelope of what they've done before is bound to have some failures, but this is sometimes the price you pay for eventual success.
  • Re:Stop crying. (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday July 11, 2006 @11:32PM (#15703225)
    Is it,

    so what is this doing on slashdot?

    http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/ 07/121258 [slashdot.org]

    Please don't make stupid excuses.

    Also, I am sure, 9/11 and Madrid and many other blast were on Slashdot... I just don't want to waste time finding the links to state the obvious.

    SO who should stop crying now?
  • Re:Mumbai (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 12, 2006 @03:26AM (#15703812)
    According to news, 6 million people take the train each day in Mumbai, and about 170 of them were killed yesterday. That is about .003%

    When taken over one month period, that is about the same lethality as you can expect from car traffic.

    Don't overhype the effects of terrorism. That is what the terrorists are after. By overhyping it, you are only helping them.

It's a naive, domestic operating system without any breeding, but I think you'll be amused by its presumption.

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