WinOS+QEMU+Knoppix 3.8 = WinKnoppix!

chronicon writes "As reported earlier Knoppix 3.8 was presented and CD's distributed at CeBIT recently. For those of us who were not able to attend, some kind folks have posted a torrent for all to enjoy. Now, here's where it really gets interesting. Using QEMU (processor emulator) chris-uk has posted a modified version of Knoppix 3.8 that will run under Windows if auto-played, or if you wish, you can boot the CD for normal Knoppix. You can find the torrent here."

Re:Great, But...

[TelJanin]

You can save Knoppix settings to a drive. Presumably the people have done this (couldn't RTFA, site is slashdotted)

Mirrors

[Shachaf]

Here's the Coral Cache [nyud.net] and the Mirrordot Mirror [mirrordot.org].

What about CoLinux?

[ZehFernando]

CoLinux is also a very handy package for running linux on windows. It installs linux on a single file on your HD, then runs linux on it, and you can access it throught VNC. So you can have windows and linux sharing the same machine and HD, running at the same time, on different windows. Pretty handy.

http://www.colinux.org [colinux.org]

You can use it to run linux from some other partition too. It comes with a version of debian built it, but there are other packages for other distros.

You can also try topologilinux.

http://wwwtopologilinux.com [wwwtopologilinux.com]

It's a bundled installation of coLinux and slackware with all bells and whistles.

Audio Linux ((Time to try Linux (again))

[chronicon]

SuSE has a customized LiveCD based on 9.2 with audio as the focus. It worked well on all the boxen I have booted it. You can find it here [suse.com] or on one of the mirrors [novell.com].

I'm hoping they will release it as an installable distro at some point. The demo scripts worked great for patching different applications through jackd w/ ALSA. Very cool.

Re:hope for good performance

[Guspaz]

Wrong. QEMU is a full system emulator. There is a processor module availble that virtualizes the CPU instead of emulating, but it is closed-source and linux-only. As such the windows version of QEMU is a full blown emulator.

Re:Yes, but...

[compm375]

There is one fatal flaw. Wine Is Not an Emulater.

Re:Yes, but...

[The Hobo]

Remember guys, any platform. Wine has also been ported to Windows [sourceforge.net].... (!)

Re:Login? Why?-is it illegal?

[TheKarateMaster]

Huh? There's a direct link to the torrent in the article. At least, it worked for me. I wouldn't bother for a day or two, though. This torrent is officially slashdotted... My download rate at one point reached a maximum of 0KB/s

slowness /w BT ~= router lack of configuration

[Phil Urich]

That's . . . very, very odd. I've often been able to max out my bandwidth with torrents (though not nowadays, considering that I'm at the university residence . . . faster even than my prior aDSL, true, but if I let it go, I'd break my weekly download/upload limits damn quickly!). There are many things that could be going wrong. One of the problems often encountered, which is the most likely cause since I've seen similar same symptoms on many a computer, is your router. Part of the reason I've never had to care is 'cause I've eskewed routers; I hate them, I reallly do. But if you're using one, and getting crappy speeds using BitTorrent, this may very well be it, so just read up on the solution here [dessent.net]. Hope that works for ya.

Naw...

[SaDan]

I just started a torrent, and I'm already over 12KB/s.

Yes, I'm sharing too.. 16KB/s up is my limit for torrents (384K DSL uplink).

Re:Are they insane?

[jhoger]

How about not waiting and getting to work on QEMU?

QEMU has the right emphasis from the beginning. To make something that is fast and usable.

And that's what it is, on several platforms. It's got the momentum, why divide up resources? QEMU will run on more platforms, and is getting the same virtualization goodies as Xen. The tiny virtualization kernel is open source but non-free till Fabrice can get some funding, but have some faith based on his entire body of Free software contributions that it will also become free.

-- John.

Portable Virtual Privacy Machine

[millette]

Here's another option, designed for a USB key. It runs Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. all in a virtual linux machine. The release is planned to work on GNU/Linux, ms windows and mac os x, although the current release candidate doesn't work on the mac. It also uses qemu, of course. More info: Portable Virtual Privacy Machine [metropipe.net].

Re:www.knoppix.net

[gtoomey]

Mark the parent as moronic, not interesting. Knoppix.net is one of the links in the story.

My Review

[Anonymous Coward]

On a p4 system with a gig of ram, the performance is pretty lacking. It might be a better idea to use one of those drive image programs rather then the actual cd. Anyway, my thanks for those souls seeding their hearts out on that torrent.

URL for "QEMU and coLinux with KNOPPIX" at AIST

[Anonymous Coward]

QEMU with KNOPPIX

http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/qemu/index-en. html [aist.go.jp]

coLinux with KNOPPIX

http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/colinux/index- en.html [aist.go.jp]

Here is an installer to NTFS of Windows2000/XP.

Install2win

http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/win/index-en.h tml [aist.go.jp]

Re:Are they insane?

[jhoger]

Oops... re-read the QEMU site, KQEMU is non-free and closed source. I took away something from KQEMU discussion that was incorrect.

But the intent as stated by Fabrice is to get sponsorship so that eventually KQEMU can eventually be Free. So, essentially KQEMU module is a kind of ransomware.

-- John.

Here is coLinux+KNOPPIX

[Anonymous Coward]

Here is coLinux+KNOPPIX

http://unit.aist.go.jp/itri/knoppix/colinux/index- en.html [aist.go.jp]

Re:hope for good performance

[Anonymous Coward]

So you're saying it dynamically recompiles x86 code into x86 code.

That's exactly what it does, and in a portable way.

The x86 has several modes of operation: real, v86, protected. There are also hybrid modes such as unreal mode. Also has submodes/privledge levels (rings) when in protected mode. In order to run code for any of these modes of operation in protected mode in the lowest privledge level on your machine (i.e. as a user program) it needs to recompile the code.

It also means that if you're running on a PPC or other non-x86 machine, it dynamically recompiles x86 code into your native machine's code.