Educational Consortium Will Control .edu Domains 145
PxT writes: "According to this Reuters story, the U.S. government is going to hand over control of .edu to an association of 1800 college IT departments. Anything is better than Verisign ..." I wonder how long VeriSign cried over this move, considering that it probably wasn't very lucrative to administer .edu names. (It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
Re:Give the domain to those who live in it? (Score:1)
Perhaps we should turn it over to a non-profit coalition of porno-spammers?
Re:What's wrong with Verisign? (Score:1)
Urban legend.
Not an urban legend. I can confirm they did this to one of my domains. They also screwed up my password so they would not permit me to edit my nameserver addresses. They refused to believe my photo ID and company letterhead I faxed them in order to try to get it back under my control. My domain was immediately sold to a domain squatter/speculator three full days before it expired and I still haven't been able to get it back... this happened two years ago.
That's great... (Score:1)
- A.P.
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Forget Napster. Why not really break the law?
.edu NOT just for 4-year schools, or even schools! (Score:1)
We are a non-profit arts and education organization, not a school, and we operate under a
Or this: (Score:1)
www.toronto.edu [toronto.edu]
Re:Why America only? (Score:1)
Re:Basketball EDU (Score:1)
Re:Erm only 4 year schools? WRONG! (Score:1)
(small world)
Re:4-year institutions (Score:1)
There are astronomical institutions which are not degree-granting, but are in the .edu domain.
www.noao.edu [noao.edu], www.stsci.edu [stsci.edu], www.nrao.edu [nrao.edu]....edu domain restrictions (Score:1)
I don't know about these restrictions you speak of, but my high school [bxscience.edu] has had a domain name since 1992.
We also probably have the best high school connection to the Internet, with a dedicated 100MBit line, courtesy of Cablevision.
I'd say the lack of 2-year colleges with domain names is just a reflection of their IT departments' interest in the Internet. I don't imagine they'd have any more trouble registering a
Re:.edu restrictions good (Score:1)
ex ICANN CEO + DoC = (Something Fishy) (Score:1)
Another thing to think about: The transfer of .com/.net/.org required the involvement of ICANN (and unfortunately NSI too). Yet, here the DoC is making policy decisions on their own without any ICANN involvement. So, why couldn't the DoC make the decision about the VeriSign agreement? Or even better - why can't the DoC decide to add new TLDs without ICANN??
Not only 4 year colleges. (Score:1)
Re:I just want one thing. (Score:1)
2-years and .edu (Score:1)
I don't know why others don't, though. I wouldn't have trouble believing that it is harder for a 2 year college to get a
no shit (Score:1)
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:1)
Re:Do I not speak English well enough? (Score:1)
But I am sure glad that the edu domain is not in the hands of a commercial entity any longer. Let's hope that the rules for getting an edu domain will be relaxed to allow any accredited degree granting institution.
Re:What's wrong with Verisign? (Score:1)
Re:My high school had a .edu address (Score:1)
My high school had a .edu address (Score:1)
My high school has an edu domain. 4 year colleges??
http://www.bxscience.edu/
Not true. (Score:1)
it.edu belongs to a danish university.
It's not all 4 year universities (Score:1)
Metro Pittsburgh Youth for Christ was able to sevure an
.edu domains (Score:1)
Others still (Score:1)
Re:Oldschool.edu (Score:1)
Is there an OldSchool tie?
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:1)
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:1)
Re:Besides, schools in America are usually... (Score:1)
Oh, British students do that too. I had an extra special snigger about that when, at school, we were browsing brochures selecting universities for applications.
Re:Besides, schools in America are usually... (Score:1)
In the UK, we have separate domains for schools and colleges/universities. Schools are in schoolname.borough.sch.uk *, while universities are at universityname.ac.uk. This seems to work quite well, I think, especially since there are lots of schools with the same name, especially those named after christian saints.
* A borough is an area governed by a particular local council, although in the case where a county is quite small, a whole county may have the same council and I presume share the same school domain.
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:1)
Yeah, but you can't get a "trusted" Verisign cert for a .us domain--only for .com, .net, and .org (last I looked; I suppose they're prolly allowing some other domains now). For that reason, my high school [gouldacademy.org] went from .pvt.k12.me.us to .org. The CIO there is pretty big into standards, which is prolly why we didn't get the .com (which was open at the time of the .org purchase) or the .edu (which, at least according to some RFCs I've seen but am too lazy to look up, is supposed to be only for four-year, accredited, post-secondary institutions).
Re:.edu beyond 4-year schools (Score:1)
Re:Not just 4-year colleges . . . (Score:1)
not only 4 year colleges (Score:1)
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:1)
Could someone explain? (Score:1)
edu.edu (Score:1)
Yes, I realize it's taken. But that happened between this posting and your reading. Someone clearly just read my post and registered it to make millions off my idea. Luckily, I patented it first.
-Puk
Hrmm... (Score:1)
There are non-4 year college .edu's (Score:1)
www.loyolahs.edu [loyolahs.edu]
Of course.. the only reason we have it is because we were so (excuse the cliche) "ahead of the times," that we registered it before the whole 4 year college rule came about... As a result, we have the distinct privilage of being one of the few non 4 year colleges with a
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Re:Why America only? (Score:1)
This just in! (Score:1)
-Legion
Re:.edu beyond 4-year schools (Score:1)
What does it take to qualify? (Score:1)
Not Just 4-year colleges (Score:1)
Re:Why just American schools ? (Score:1)
Xavier
Is this really a good idea? (Score:1)
Erm only 4 year schools? WRONG! (Score:1)
Re:Not true, was never true (Score:1)
I think that it's more that the policy has not been enforced, rather than it having been repealed. I know that their are now primary and secondary schools with .edu domains, as well as non-American institutions. I suspect that this is basically keeping with the spirit of the original naming convention, rather than the letter. After all, when the TLDs were first created nobody would have considered that any school but a fairly serious university would even be able to connect to the net, much less want to have their own address. I'm sure that the idea of kindergardeners needing their own address was the last thing on the designers mind when they were coming up with the naming scheme way back when.
Re:Basketball EDU (Score:1)
Here at the University of Louisville [louisville.edu] we have the (advertising) slogan "Dare to be Great". This has sparked parodies such as "Dare to be Stupid".
Some how those parodies don't have the irony of "America's Next Great University". It brings a message of "Eeehh, we are not so great yet. But by the time you graduate, we will really kick ass!"
Besides, we have Pitino [uoflsports.com] now. So I don't think that UK deserves basketball.edu. Although we might get pitino.edu [fansonly.com] and rename the school to University of Pitino.
Re:Why America only? (Score:2)
Private K-12s with .edu (Score:2)
Re:Why America only? (Score:2)
crimeny. We agree to mix our
:_)
hawk
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:2)
There are others I can't think of right now that are not colleges, but major education type places (like...you know - starting to sound like totatally a val girl)
Re:Do I not speak English well enough? (Score:2)
Below is what it said when I last found it, as our music hall attached to our campus wanted to get
14. What are the guidelines for registering an
Registrations in the
universities that grant degrees at the bachelor, master and doctoral
level, or its foreign equivalent. Each college or university may register
only one
cannot obtain a
a third-level domain beneath the second-level domain of their institution.
Inquiries should be directed to the registrant of the second-level domain.
If the college or university registering the Web Address meets this
criteria, it must provide a brief explanation of the kinds of degrees
awarded under "Purpose/Description" on the registration form.
Many foundations, institutions, consortia, centers, etc., that have
educational missions but don't meet the criteria for a Web Address
registration in the
TLD. K-12 schools and community colleges are typically registered under
country domains such as
Re:Why America only? NO! ALSO IN CANADA (Score:2)
Wonder how that one slipped through...
Yes, they are a monopoly. (Score:2)
Facts (Score:2)
I wonder (Score:2)
Learn to overthrow the gummint
4 year only? (Score:2)
*shrug*
Re:Hamburger EDU (Score:2)
Hamburger University [mcdonalds.com]
I've cruised the campus before, it's very nice--even has a full golf course. They actually do have courses on Working the Fry Basket, although they don't offer them as distance-learning
-gleam
Not just 4-year colleges . . . (Score:2)
My question then becomes what happens to places like Stuy which are not four years colleges but which do have a
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Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:2)
This is a prep high school, sister school to Andover of Bush family fame...
Re:Not Just 4-year colleges (Score:2)
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:2)
Re:Besides, schools in America are usually... (Score:2)
universities are at universityname.ac.uk
This gave us a small amount of amusement when as (American) university students, we would download things from a mirror at Imperial College. Spoken aloud, of course, their domain is "Ick Ack Uck". :-)
Besides, schools in America are usually... (Score:2)
...assigned according to their geographic location, if you're talking about high schools and the like. Something like nameofschool.city.state.us seems to be common. Likewise for community colleges.
Putting anything that calls itself a school into an .edu domain would be utterly chaotic. Even leaving aside Dimator's very good point about how .edu ought to mean something (frex, accredited schools), you're still faced with half a kazillion public schools all named "Central High School," all of which will be offended if they aren't www.central.edu.
Re:I want... (Score:2)
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miskatonic.edu (Score:2)
Huh? (Score:2)
My two-year college had an .edu TLD, as do many others [yahoo.com].
tjhsst.edu (Score:2)
.edu beyond 4-year schools (Score:2)
4-year institutions (Score:2)
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Give the domain to those who live in it? (Score:2)
DanH
Cav Pilot's Reference Page [cavalrypilot.com]
I want... (Score:2)
Alumnists include just about everyone. And we have campuses all around the world. Although, not a 4 year college, more like a lifetime one. Credit transfers are automatic, and you do not need a thesis to graduate!
Re:Do I not speak English well enough? (Score:2)
Too me,it seems that "teaching" someone to think is a bit of an oxymoron. Teaching seems to be a type of manipulation, no matter how well intentioned, seems to be be incompatable with the idea of indepedent thought.
That is, when you teach people to think, you are always going to teach them, in some subtle way, to think how(and by extension, what) to think. And thus you aren't teaching thought at all.
Re:Katy! (Score:2)
Do I not speak English well enough? (Score:2)
Am I really that ignorant of the English language? Where, when and how did the word "education" come to mean "accredited 4 year university"? What, exactly did all these accredited four year universities do to lay sole claim to the title of "education"? Unless "education" now means "bullshit, more bullshit, date rape and drunk driving" I don't think that the four year universities should be in sole possesion of the .edu
So, to put it more mildly, I don't see why four year universities should have sole rights to the .edu domain. I am happy that four year colleges and non-traditional schools may also be able to get it.
Hamburger EDU (Score:2)
"Register at hamburger.edu and sign up for a distance learning course on Working the Fry Basket, Advanced Making Change, and Voice (for the Drivethru) 101."
If you don't have anything nice to say, say it often.
The AP story explains the 4-yr. restriction. (Score:2)
It also notes how Verisign does state that it was eager to give up the domain.
Re:YAY! (Score:2)
Re:Why America only? (Score:2)
Don't you mean IMHO? On Slashdot (oops, I mean /.) you're supposed to use acronyms whenever possible!
Re:Why America only? (Score:2)
.edu restrictions good (Score:2)
Re:Why America only? (Score:2)
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NinjaTux (Score:2)
NinjaTux(.edu): the low latency attack software of the millenium of hackers. Access it now at www.kernel.org via the hypertext transfer protocol. Tuxedo not included, Although one will look good on you at your trial.
(oh, and please, mod up the article I responded to. It is funken funny stuff!)
Please remove BOOGERS when sending me eMail. Thankyou...
Sincerely,
perl.edu (Score:2)
what about Krusty? (Score:2)
It's about time he got the recognition he deserves for his contributions to American comedy...
A real education (Score:2)
And yes, I will be providing a four-year degree.
Invisible Agent
Re:Why America only? (Score:3)
Sorry - that's about my limit on non-us college knowledge - not even enough for a full Jeapordy category.
Not true, was never true (Score:3)
There have been many institutions over the years with .edu domains that are not accredited 4-year academic institutions. Museums, research facilities, schools without 4-year programs, there are numerous examples of all of these (thank you, we don't need every /.'er noting the dozen closest to them.)
Either Reuters has simply gotten their 'facts' wrong (gee - a misreported tech story? Never!) or the enforcement of the 4-year policy has been innefectual.
Frankly I'm inclined to believe that either this supposed policy is a relatively recent one or there's a lot of details that have been omitted. In any case the Reuters story is clearly innacurate.
Re:Non 4 year college .edu domain (Score:3)
-Alison
Re:Why America only? (Score:3)
Well, the internationalization of TLDs such as COM has been only a relatively recent development. In fact, several of the top-level TLDs are reserved for the United States, in particular, GOV, MIL, and (as you pointed out) EDU. The others (COM especially) have traditionally been dominated by US organizations.
Furthermore, the administration of the US domain is a bureaucratic mess, despite the (in my mind) wonderful structural scheme that's present in it. Also, it doesn't quite have the accessibility of the top-level TLDs. (Was that .ny.us or .nv.us?)
One could go on and on about whether or not the US has the right to claim such exclusive access, but the history remains the same. ^_^
-W-
"Is it all journey, or is there landfall?"
ICANNWatch.org for breaking ICANN/DNS news (Score:3)
Since then, we've run stories on
Re:Not true, was never true (Score:3)
I'm speaking from personal experience here. We wired up my high school to the net in '95, when it was still pretty much bleeding edge for a high school to have a T1 and a server room of its very own. We wanted severn.edu but were refused due to not being a 4 year college, and thus went with severnschool.com [severnschool.com]. Not nearly as nice a domain, and believe me there's no way we would have gone with it if we had had any choice!
Why America only? (Score:3)
Could be bad. (Score:3)
I'd like to see it given to only accredited universities, actually.
I could be crazy though....
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dude! I hope this consortium has a sense of humor (Score:3)
I would so love to have hardknocks.edu! I know just about a bazillion people that would be qualified to have an alumni.hardknocks.edu email address (myself included, if having your kidneys fail when you're 20 counts as a hard knock ;-) ).
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Oldschool.edu (Score:4)
Time to break internic's rules:
Registrant:
The Old School (OLDSCHOOL7-DOM)
1111 Karlstad Drive
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US
Domain Name: OLDSCHOOL.EDU
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Bell, Wade (WB216) wbell@BEST.COM
8oz. Publishing
2432 Karen Dr #1
Santa Clara, CA 95050
408 249 1557
Record last updated on 08-Mar-2001.
Record created on 12-Oct-1998.
Database last updated on 12-Apr-2001 06:35:00 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NAME.ROC.GBLX.NET 209.130.187.10
NAME.PHX.GBLX.NET 206.165.6.10
NAME.IAD.GBLX.NET 204.152.166.155
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-gleam
Dr Evil may apply... (Score:4)
I just want one thing. (Score:5)
I've wanted since the begining of all this, and every time i've applied (at multiple places) when asked by the person 'is this a 4 year school', i patiently reply 'One cannot become a ninja with only 4 years. ha! ha! ha!' and then they hang up on me, I think cause of the mocking tone.
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Gonzo Granzeau