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the Coming Chatbot Revolution

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  • Look how many candidates sound like they have a defective random number generator [slashdot.org]

    The funny thing is that, in their audaciousness, they easily pass the Turing test.

    • Our politics has converged with Newspeak because Holy Progress is ultimately Orwellian.
      Yet I cling to a sanguine attitude that social norms will emerge that harness the value of technology, while keeping it on a leash.
      The alternative is to have technology put humanity on a leash.
    • The candidates are following orders, say what they are told to say. Their "audaciousness" is a simple appeal to animal instinct. Yes, despite being bots, they win. They don't pass the Turing test, the voters flunk. The system works.

      • I guess that's what you get in a "democratic" oligarchy. The opportunity to vote for the puppet of your choice.
        • No, we can work around it, but most people find it easier and more convenient to play along. It is all the voters' shoulders. The winner is their choice, not Mr. Moneybags'

          • The people can only vote for candidates on the ballot. With a presidential run costing over a billion dollars (unless you pull a Donald - his election costs so far are something like a quarter-million and he gets tons of free publicity), you're not going to have much of a choice. And if Trump had been an "ordinary Joe" he wouldn't have made the news with the stuff he's spouting. So the choice of candidates is limited by $$$$. Lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$.

            Then there are the other races in that election cycle, als

            • The people decide who is on the ballot in the US through petitions and the primary process. The choice is not limited by money, but by the voters. They also have to power to shun Mr. Moneybags if they so desire. But they choose convenience and take what is spoon fed instead of seeking out qualified candidates. Corruption is the voters fault, the candidates are a reflection. Let them spend all the money they want, let them spend all their money, who cares? If the voters don't turn their backs, they (voters)

              • the primary process

                The primary process is broken. Many people live in states that are too far down in the order for primary voting that they don't matter at all. If the candidate you would have voted for has already been eliminated from the primary voting process by the time your state's primary comes up, you're left to choose amongst the remaining candidates (if there is even a choice at all left at that point).

                • Your ignorance is showing again. If you don't get enough votes or petition signatures, of course you will be off the ballot. It still has nothing to do with the money. But keep on passing the blame, old habits die hard, perfectly understandable.

                  • If you don't get enough votes or petition signatures, of course you will be off the ballot.

                    Which is how the earlier states make the decision for the later states.

                    A great example of this was the 2004 election and Howard Dean. I would have enthusiastically voted for him in the primaries, but the media assassinated him well before I ever had a chance to do so. My state was about 30th in the order that year, and the earlier states had already run him off before my state had their primary. This was, of course, primarily in response to him daring to show enthusiasm on the campaign trail that year

                    • You are hopeless... so full of shit... The money only works when it buys your* vote. And furthermore, you are not demanding enough. As for the timing, just open and close the voting at the same 'time' everywhere, and maybe don't start the count before all the polls are closed.

                      Whatever, you are responsible for the people you vote for, nobody else.

                      *editorial

                    • As for the timing, just open and close the voting at the same 'time' everywhere, and maybe don't start the count before all the polls are closed.

                      I would prefer either to do primaries in all states simultaneously, or at least do a rotating schedule for them so that if we have to have primaries timed separately they can be done on different schedules with each election.

                      Whatever, you are responsible for the people you vote for, nobody else.

                      I don't get to choose who is on the ballot.

                    • I don't get to choose who is on the ballot.

                      You are mistaken... but I can't argue with the obtuse, so keep your faith. You have no valid complaints anyway. You are simply scapegoating others and denying your own responsibility.

                    • What do you want me to do (aside from not voting, of course)? Should I move to New Hampshire so I can vote in a primary that matters? Voting for someone who isn't on the ballot doesn't accomplish anything in this system. Sure, it was fun to vote for Mickey Mouse when voting for high school class president, but this is an election that actually matters.
                    • You shall do what you wish. The choice is yours, just remember it is always a personal one and that you alone are responsible for it. Your blame passing accomplishes nothing, outside your own gratification.

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