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Journal damn_registrars's Journal: The Kevlar Kandidate Starts Kampaigning 30

Looks who is back in Iowa, but the Kevlar Kandidate. Of course, his priority is Wisconsin, so he isn't officially running for POTUS (wink, wink) - he's just giving the best presidential speeches he can just in case there is a presidential election after his current term as governor is up.

Pop quiz - can you name a democrat who is not from Iowa who has spent more time in Iowa in 2015 than Scott Walker? Yeah, neither can anyone else.

I'm particularly looking forward to him selling himself as an outsider in light of the plain fact that

he has been in office for more than 75 percent of his adult life

Although since nobody seems to be bothered by the fact that his budgets have led to the opposite of their promises in almost every single case, they probably won't be bothered by this either.

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  • But don't worry: the GOP is replete with patrician dickheads who will ensure we stay the Greek course and eschew an real reform that could enhance liberty.
    • The GOP has favored suppression of liberty for as long as I have known of them. And don't pretend that the GOP somehow philosophically connects to Lincoln, the whole world knows that is a pile of malarkey.
      • What about the historical fact that Lincoln was a Republican?
        • And what about the historical fact that nothing he did as president would be welcomed by the current GOP platform?
          • Well, truly: a full-on Civil War, itself, would be as welcome as Lincoln's Constitutional freelancing. But I can't go expecting a valid, balanced approach to evaluation from you, now can I?
            • Well, truly: a full-on Civil War, itself, would be as welcome as Lincoln's Constitutional freelancing.

              It occurs to me that every state whose governor has encouraged secession has been a conservative-led state. Meanwhile any time a non-conservative suggests that maybe things might be better elsewhere (with or without their state) they are methodically labeled as "Un-American" and formally told to STFU. So it would appear that the conservatives are far more interested in Civil War than anyone else.

              That said, haven't you previously used terms similar to "Constitutional Freelancing" to describe the current

              • (who you keep pretending to be not enormously conservative)

                What, precisely, do you think was even semi-conservative about the notion of raping all of the 529 accounts to offer a community college freebie?

                • What, precisely, do you think was even semi-conservative about the notion of raping all of the 529 accounts to offer a community college freebie?

                  Talk is cheap. Just because he said doesn't mean it will be done. You evaluate President Lawnchair and his legacy based on your fears, I evaluate him based on what he has actually done - and his speech about wanting to make community college free is not action but just a speech. We both know it won't pass.

                  But thank you for reminding us that education is something that conservatives love to hate - as of course very few educated people can ever benefit from conservative policy.

                  • But thank you for reminding us that education is something that conservatives love to hate

                    Holding an undergraduate engineering degree and two master's as I do, this is just another one of your sweet, erroneous trolls. You stay beautiful!

                    • But thank you for reminding us that education is something that conservatives love to hate

                      Holding an undergraduate engineering degree and two master's as I do, this is just another one of your sweet, erroneous trolls.

                      And have those brought you to an economic echelon where conservative fiscal policy would help you more than it would hurt you? We already know the answer to that is no. You also just recently bitched about how much you despise community college. I wouldn't ask you to provide evidence of your educational background, so don't attempt to play that card. It would not change in any way the fact that you have shown a great deal of disdain for education - as have your heroes in politics.

                    • You also just recently bitched about how much you despise community college.

                      The last time I thought about community college, I was wondering to myself if I could convince the wife to move out west, where I'm from, and live a relaxed rural existence and teach a little Comp Sci at SWOCC [socc.edu]. Perhaps you've confused me with another of your compadres.

                    • I was wondering to myself if I could convince the wife to move out west, where I'm from, and live a relaxed rural existence and teach a little Comp Sci at SWOCC

                      That job works in opposition to your political ambition of putting all government employees out of work. Even after President Lawnchair's ambition of giving everyone two years free at community college fizzles out and leads to nothing (and we all know it will) you would still be a government employee working for the community college.

                      Although it seems a lot of your heroes have been collecting checks from the government for some time, so maybe that doesn't bother you.

                    • in opposition to your political ambition of putting all government employees out of work

                      Oh, far from it!
                      [tasteless_joke] I'd rather put all government employees in work camps [/tasteless_joke]
                      By which I really mean to say, if you're just going to ascribe ambitions to me wantonly, why not go big?

                      you would still be a government employee working for the community college.

                      If one enjoys teaching, is it really work?

                      Although it seems a lot of your heroes have been collecting checks from the government for some time, so maybe that doesn't bother you.

                      Are you asserting that government employees should work for free? Wouldn't that be, essentially, stealing their labor from them? A shockingly immoral thought.

                    • in opposition to your political ambition of putting all government employees out of work

                      Oh, far from it!

                      You have given us long and extensive lists of government employees you would like to see lose their jobs, and it goes well beyond only those who hold an elected office or are appointment by people who do.

                      If one enjoys teaching, is it really work?

                      So would you enjoy it enough to do it for free, such as to not be a hypocrite asking for the end of employment for other government employees while being one yourself?

                      Although it seems a lot of your heroes have been collecting checks from the government for some time, so maybe that doesn't bother you.

                      Are you asserting that government employees should work for free? Wouldn't that be, essentially, stealing their labor from them?

                      No, I would not say that. I don't hold anything against government employees. I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the "government

                    • So would you enjoy it enough to do it for free

                      I teach for free several times a week, in fact.

                      I don't hold anything against government employees.

                      And neither do I. Government employee unions remain a conflict of interest and a form of delayed mutiny, however.

                    • Government employee unions remain a conflict of interest and a form of delayed mutiny, however.

                      I believe you have made that statement many times before, which goes well with your general disdain for organized labor. What you have not answered though is why this particular type of freedom of association should be banned when others are not. If someone choses of their own free will to be part of a union how is that different from choosing of their own free will to be a member of a specific church? Why defend so steadfast one and attack so steadfast the other?

                    • which goes well with your general disdain for organized labor. What you have not answered though is why this particular type of freedom of association should be banned when others are not.

                      I think the IRS, and the general expansion of the administrative state, offer literally hundreds of thousands of reasons why.

                      If someone choses of their own free will to be part of a union how is that different from choosing of their own free will to be a member of a specific church?

                      Crazy thing is, we don't have churches making decisions about how to regulate the lives of random people. I really don't know how to make this distinction more obvious to the oblivious.

                    • which goes well with your general disdain for organized labor. What you have not answered though is why this particular type of freedom of association should be banned when others are not.

                      I think the IRS, and the general expansion of the administrative state, offer literally hundreds of thousands of reasons why.

                      Please clarify how that is in line with the statement it was posted in reply to. Other than you hate both organized labor and the IRS, I don't see a connection between the two.

                      If someone choses of their own free will to be part of a union how is that different from choosing of their own free will to be a member of a specific church?

                      Crazy thing is, we don't have churches making decisions about how to regulate the lives of random people.

                      And neither do unions. Unions work for their members. How do you see unions being somehow magically able to "regulate the lives of random people"? Union members pay dues and vote. Arguably unions - which few remain of any relevance, anyways - are a more direct form of democracy than what our country has devolved into (even more

                    • Please clarify

                      OK. Question:

                      why this particular type of freedom of association should be banned

                      Answer:

                      the IRS, and the general expansion of the administrative state, offer literally hundreds of thousands of [pages of] reasons why

                      Regret lateness of last night's reply resulting in an incomplete thought.

                      And neither do unions. Unions work for their members.

                      Thank you for making my argument for me. Private sector unions are an obvious extension of freedom of association. But public sector unions, as you note, work for their members. The inescapable conclusion is that a public sector union, over time, is going to serve its members, to the detriment of the public.
                      We understood that the Commies were attacking the culture, subverting academia and Hollywood. One must offer

                    • One must offer props to them for infiltrating the IRS. The suppression of the Tea Parties leading up to the 2012 election, with a wink from the GOP...

                      Not only must you run for office. You got yourself a real Tom Clancy thriller to pound out of the typewriter there. That's great stuff.

                    • Smitty I honestly don't see the connection here. Please, can you clarify what you mean by

                      the IRS, and the general expansion of the administrative state, offer literally hundreds of thousands of [pages of] reasons why

                      In the context of it somehow being an explanation for

                      why this particular type of freedom of association should be banned

                      I think you are trying to somehow use the IRS as justification for your desire to outlaw union membership (at least, amongst government employees) but the connection just isn't there. What does the IRS have to do with unions?

                      And neither do unions. Unions work for their members.

                      The inescapable conclusion is that a public sector union, over time, is going to serve its members, to the detriment of the public.

                      I disagree completely with that assertion. It is in now way an "inescapable conclusion". Or are you trying to support a movement to set

                    • It is in now way an "inescapable conclusion". Or are you trying to support a movement to set all government employees' pay to zero?

                      I submit that you may be kind of oblivious to organizational behavior. Perhaps it's deliberate. But I'm in no way advocating that any employees anywhere work for $0. Such would be (a) theft, and (b) legitimize even WORSE behavior than already in evidence.
                      What I *would* do, granted ridiculous powers of fiat, is limit public employment (non-teacher & military, I mean bureaucrats) to 10 years.
                      Simpler systems and higher turnover rate are worth a try for minimizing corruption.

                    • I submit that you may be kind of oblivious to organizational behavior.

                      No, it would appear that you are the one who wears blinders to the situation. We have 40 hour work weeks because of organized labor. We have worker's compensation for injuries on the job because of organized labor. We have a minimum wage and rights to file grievances because of organized labor. We have occupational safety standards because of organized labor.

                      You focus only on the things that your political heroes blame on organized labor, regardless of whether or not those things are rooted in reali

                    • We have 40 hour work weeks because of organized labor. We have worker's compensation for injuries on the job because of organized labor. We have a minimum wage and rights to file grievances because of organized labor. We have occupational safety standards because of organized labor.
                      You focus only on the things that your political heroes blame on organized labor, regardless of whether or not those things are rooted in reality.

                      Two points:
                      - NOT public sector; you're making a valid historical point that ignores significant subsequent developments, e.g. OSHA.
                      - OK, let's have another golf clap for the 40-hour work week, and ignore the tendency for all solutions like organized labor to become a solution in search of a problem [thegatewaypundit.com].

                      So you wouldn't want someone working for the DMV for 10 years? What about police and fire?

                      Yes, what?

                      A higher turnover in congress I would generally endorse. The problem though is that the overwhelming opinion of the American voter follows the line of "congress is bad, buy my guy is GREAT". So good luck getting traction on and kind of term limit for them.

                      Convention of States [conventionofstates.com].

                    • ignores significant subsequent developments, e.g. OSHA.

                      OSHA came about when the labor movement was still strong in this country, which is why even the conservative President Nixon had to sign it into existence. Had organized labor not existed prior to then, what incentive would there have been to create OSHA at all?

                      And furthermore, you generally despise the federal government (at least, any time that you don't have your guy in the white house), so why are you suggesting that you wouldn't hate OSHA? I fully expect it would be on your list of departments to

                    • Had organized labor not existed prior to then, what incentive would there have been to create OSHA at all?

                      I haven't the foggiest clue what incentive would there have been to create OSHA. Why not ask the Counterfactual Club?

                      Funny thing here, you are still free to work more than 40 hours if you want.

                      Sure. The sweet victory of ObamaCare is that that people can work 3 x 29 hour jobs, for a total of 87 hours, and still not have medical benefits. Be sure to blame corporations, and not bureaucrats. Remember: and unmanaged market is chaos, since capitalism is slavery. Trust your Government, and experts, except for brief two-minute spurts of anti-police H8.

                      Do the Koch Brothers give you a kickback for getting eyes to that site?

                      Doesn't that answer itself? If I was m

                    • Funny thing here, you are still free to work more than 40 hours if you want.

                      Sure. The sweet victory of ObamaCare is that that people can work 3 x 29 hour jobs, for a total of 87 hours, and still not have medical benefits

                      Which is different from before how? Not at all, of course. Just because they brought the requirement for "insured employee" down from 40 to 30 doesn't mean things changed much for the chronically underemployed.

                    • "Barack Obama sure does love him some poor people, judging by the way he's made so many of them."
                  • I evaluate him based on what he has actually done...

                    Well, I know that's utter bullshit. If that were true, you would have followed his record and associates to know he was lying about the ACA instead of trying to fortify your 'lesser evil' crap that he 'folded'. Gee, maybe pudge is right about you. You really might be a liar yourself.

                    Mickey Mouse for President!

    • Yup. Better get to sucking Jeb's dick soon, maybe he won't shove it down your throat too hard if you get started early.

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