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  • Yeah, Martin Luther King Jr was a republican, but that was when the republicans supported - rather than thwarted - the right of workers to organize. His family with their values wouldn't be republicans now, regardless of the color of their skin.
    • Actually, MLK Sr was a Republican, but Jr was not explicitly such.

      His family with their values wouldn't be republicans now, regardless of the color of their skin.

      You're waaaaay too confident there, Hot Rod.

      • His family with their values wouldn't be republicans now, regardless of the color of their skin.

        You're waaaaay too confident there, Hot Rod.

        As per your usual M.O. you skipped my argument entirely.

        I'll restate it for you this one time.

        How would the King family come to terms with their desire to help working people - particularly in their support of working people being able to organize for negotiations and rights - with the fact that the republican party is very plainly opposed to such things?

        I'll even concede that the democratic party has done a craptacular job of protecting workers' rights, as shown by the stagnation of wages, the d

        • Liberty is the ultimate protection of individual rights. The "managed liberty" pushed by Progressives of both Republican and Democrat stripe is an ersatz imitation foisted by our homo bureaucratus infestation (federal government) for the purposes of fattening the organization chart.

          • Liberty is the ultimate protection of individual rights.

            Interesting spin, and interesting avoidance of the question.

            The fact remains that the republican party today supports a restoration of the even-more-uneven distribution of power that we had before the labor revolution that brought us the 5 day workweek and other standard compensations. We have seen one conservative government after another oversee the dismantling of much of what we fought to get, which was also something that Martin Luther King Junior fought to support.

            In other words, you have not yet

            • I can agree with you that the Progressive Vichy GOP, and their Democrat compadres, all need to go.
              Unions, especially public sector unions, amount to an enabler for the new Progressive aristocracy.
              What to do? Vote the bums out, say I.

              • I can agree with you that the Progressive Vichy GOP, and their Democrat compadres, all need to go.

                So you didn't read my post at all then, did you?

                Unions, especially public sector unions, amount to an enabler for the new Progressive aristocracy.

                Bash the boogey-man, why not? No need to think about the matter when someone has already told you who the demon is.

                What to do? Vote the bums out, say I.

                So that what can happen? You want to place people in power who will drive us even further to the right. Your side has been given >90% of what they have demanded of the federal government, and you bitch endlessly about the last 10% while the other side are taking it up the rear without lubrication.

                • Well, you're not reading mine, either. You continually come in with the Rousseau, and I reply with with Locke. Group vs. individual. And so it goes.

                  You want to place people in power who will drive us even further to the right.

                  Understand that the right/left dichotomy is so much bugaboo.

                  Your side has been given >90% of what they have demanded of the federal government

                  False. Conservatives want to be emancipated from the "managed liberty" of Progress.

  • ...the Dixiecrats went over to the GOP.

    Many things have changed since 1865.

    Frankly, I wish there were some way to dissolve both the Republican and Democratic parties, ban anyone from ever using those as party names again, and ban anyone claiming spiritual descent from either party, and let all those suddenly partyless people hold long converstations to determine who has what in common from a political philosophy standpoint and let them form new parties (if they absolutely can't resist the urge) along those

  • A club was never meant to be used as a scalpel. I just love it when Conservatives talk about how unanalytical or how untruthful some position or approach on the Left is. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANY OF THOSE THINGS!!! It's just supposed to win them power (so that ultimately they can perpetually chase after every one of their stupid ideas of "fairness"). Lefties don't give two shits about ethnic minorities; it's just about handing out from amongst a set of goodies, to cobble together enough of a coalition

    • Keep in mind that "left" and "right" are cheap distractions. The two wings of the Progressives have carved up voters into constituencies to be harvested for votes and cash.

      • Not to me. To me, "Left" and "Right" have rich and highly contrasting meanings. I might partially agree however on the "Democrat" vs. "Republican" thing, esp. since non-Progressives are such pariahs in both parties (if they exist at all anymore in the D's). And while I might agree that the Progressives in each have both targeted constituencies for votes and cash (kinda redundant, since both are loosely "speech" when it's about politics), less so on the carving and harvesting, as I consider the GOP to hav

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