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Posted by justin++ on Tue Jul 06, 1999 04:17 PM
from the now-taking-preorders dept.
The uClinux guys have announced that they are finished testing the uCsimm and are now taking pre-orders. For US$175, you get a SIMM-sized unit with a 16MHz Dragonball processor (the very one used in the Palm Pilots), 2MB of Flash, 8MB of RAM, and integrated 10baseT. Since it can apparently drive a QVGA LCD, I guess it might be good for my fridge? :) uClinux is Linux without an MMU and more info can be found at the uClinux.org site.
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  • Very nice by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @11:30AM
  • Re:A question... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:19PM
  • Lies, Damned Lies, and File sizes... by Russ Steffen (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:29PM
  • Re:Size Matters by emerson (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:00PM
  • Check your cereal box. by torpor (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @03:20PM
  • Sorta missing the point: No Ethernet port. by torpor (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @04:23PM
  • This thing is awesome. I can't wait until they ship, I've placed an order for 2 of them for instant prototype work on some things I've been meaning to work on for years.

    The fact that it has built-in ethernet is a *major* plus, in my opinion.

    Imagine a small terminal that you can plug into your network and get statistics, information from around your network, instantly.

    You don't need your PC to be up and running, you just have this small device sitting on a pedestal on your desk with a 320x200 screen, scrolling information from your network, displaying bar graphs of system activity, etc.

    Since it runs Linux, we could build a minimal web server for it, so that you can administer it by sticking it on the network and pointing your browser at it.

    I'm going to build something like this when I get my prototype uCSimm boards, and I think I will call it the GeekClock. It'll have a few modes:

    Clock mode (dial/digital face, etc)
    Netmon interface - display stats from various netmon packages on your different machines.
    News scroller - slashdot headlines on your desk!
    IRC interface - see who is in your favourite #channel!

    etc.

    Sort of like a dedicated push client... imho the problem with the whole push phenomenon a few years back was that it required your PC not do much else - if you can have it on your desk and just look at it now and then as you work, it seems to me that this is a better way of doing it.

    And since it'll be an Open Source project, we can make the GeekClock totally rock! Got a module you want to write, simply dl the code, add it, and away we go.

    This way I can finally turn off all the stuff that runs in the background on my main systems, and I don't need to interrupt what I'm doing to keep an eye on things - the GeekClock stands on its pedestal on my desk, telling me whats going on with my network.

    That's just one idea.

    Another idea I had was to add a MIDI interface to it, and use it as a MIDI protocol analyzer - since I write music software for a living, this would be useful to me.

    I guess the point is that there are a whole bunch of things that I could do with a uCSimm when I get one, and I can't wait!

    If anyone is interested in the GeekClock project, don't hesitate to mail me. I'd sure like to colaborate with other people that are interested in putting this nifty device to use...
  • Kernel size by Bill Currie (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @04:02PM
  • Re:Kernel size by Bill Currie (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @05:02PM
  • Re:Size Matters by gavinhall (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:42PM
  • Canada rules again!!!-YEAH RIGHT by gavinhall (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:31AM
  • Re:Size Matters YES! by Eg0r (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @03:38PM
  • Re:Kernel size by Eg0r (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @04:14PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by Jon Abbott (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @07:13PM
  • Re:Damn that's small. Now how about this? by Jon Abbott (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @07:58PM
  • Re:Application by Cyrrin (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @05:40AM
  • Re:Awesome!! by hawk (Score:2) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:25PM
  • No, that's just not right by hawk (Score:2) Wednesday July 07 1999, @05:28AM
  • Re:Awesome!! by jirka (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:37PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by jirka (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:41PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by jirka (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:46PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by jirka (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @06:16PM
  • Re:Awesome!! (Score:3)

    by jirka (1164) on Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:26PM (#1816066) Homepage
    The 4004 was the first general application CPU, which was available outside of research laboratories. Intel made it for a japanese calculator company, but it became quite popular as a general CPU for computers, and was used in trafic control systems, and in some of the early NASA deep space probes, where these chips are still in operation, and transmitting data back to earth. (I think it is in the Voyagers, and Mariners.) This was a very slow 100KHZ, and very simple 4-bit CPU. It was fairly quickly superceded by its more powerfull cousing the 8008, which was an 8-bit machine of similar speed. Then came the 8080, which was also 8-bit, but much faster as it raged from 1-MHz to 4-MHz, and later even faster. At this time some people left Intel, and founded Zilog, which had the bestselling Z80, which was a descendant of th 8080, and was much faster, and more versatile, and could go up to 8-MHz. Intel also released the more integrated 8085, which is still used in some embedded applications, but it was overshadowed by Z80 in fame, and speed. Then Intel made a quick hack of a 16-bit CPU called 8086 to beat Motorola, and have the first 16-bit on the market. They meant to phase it out later, but unfortunately IBM adopted a crippled version of it called 8088, which was internally 16-bit, and externally 8-bit. So until today we live with the compromises this hack made to be finished with the design in just 6-weeks. We suffer from the horrible memory model, and other penalties. This model overshadowed the Z80, and its successors 80186, 80286, 80386, 80486, pentium, pentium pro, pentium II, and pentium III are still the mainstream today. They can still run some of the 4004 code if you wanted to, and if you switch them into the basic compatibility mode. The descendants of the Z80 the Z280, and the Z380 haven't done nearly as well, but Zilog is still around manufacturing embedded version of the Z80, which is still used in cars, kitchen appliances, hard drive controllers, and such. They beat Intel at its own game for a while, but the selection of 8088 by IBM over other chips elevated Intel so far, that no one has been able unseat them from the throne. That is not to say that Intel didn't have its own failures. The 80186 was a disaster, and alsmost no one used it as a compoter chip, although it did some business as an embedded processor. The real 16-bit project meant to replace the X86 series, and usher in era of more designer friendlier CPUs was continually delayed, and when it came out it was underwhelming, and never succeded as a general computer CPU, although it has seen some success as embedded processor, and was user as a brain of laser printers until the late 1990s. This was the i960, and i860 series of processors. The merced project is the latest attemp by Intel to get rid off the pupolar bastard X86, but many thing it is doomed to failure like the earlier chips. Only future will show us what will really happen.

    :>>--

  • Re:Size Matters by C.Lee (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @01:41AM
  • oh, the fun black-hat uses by the COW OF DOOM (tm) (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @02:24PM
  • Re:Size Matters by tzanger (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @05:20PM
  • Re:Size Matters by Mark Pitman (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @05:29AM
  • Not bad by marcus (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @08:11AM
  • Re:SIMM-beowulfed computer? by mmontour (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @12:16PM
  • True enough... by Millennium (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:19PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by xeno (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:11PM
  • Re:Dallas Semiconductor has TINI by tgd (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:22AM
  • Re:Kernel footprint? by moore (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @08:00PM
  • Re:Size Matters by Dastardly (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:32PM
  • Robots by Dastardly (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:36PM
  • Re:sounds good for robots by Dastardly (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:47PM
  • Re:Nice, but dog slow... by myconid (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @12:54PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by myconid (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @12:56PM
  • A question... by Ross C. Brackett (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:04PM
  • Kernel footprint? by Soong (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:47PM
  • Re:sounds good for robots by poink (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @05:57PM
  • Re:Size Matters by jnazario (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @12:43PM
  • Re:So why do I want one of these? by Felix The Cat (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:16PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by landley (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @05:24AM
  • Re:I hope Microsoft releases WinCE for this!! by cloudmaster (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:10AM
  • Re:Awesome!! by toriver (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @09:36PM
  • Dallas Semiconductor (the folks who make the Java ring) have a product called TINI [ibutton.com] that puts ethernet and Java into this form factor. (They're working on a single-chip version.)
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  • Re:So why do I want one of these? by Chirik (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:43PM
  • Re:Size Matters by generic (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @03:58AM
  • Re:Kernel size by generic (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:02AM
  • Re:Beowulf? by generic (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:08AM
  • Re:Very nice by redhog (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @12:23AM
  • Ender's game by redhog (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @12:26AM
  • Speaking of Dragonball/PalmPilot... by Tekmage (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @03:37AM
  • wireless bridge by great om (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @12:57AM
  • Re:Awesome!! by Ted Nitz (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:30PM
  • Beowulf? by scott__ (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:52PM
  • Re:Anything you darn-well want to! by flimflam (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:34PM
  • So why do I want one of these? by Dave Manning (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:08PM
  • Application by Alan Baker (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @12:04PM
  • QVGA LCD Displays by Ketchup (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @06:23PM
  • Re:Awesome!! by Crosseyed & Painless (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @06:01PM
  • Re:Altair Anyone???? by Crosseyed & Painless (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @06:05PM
  • Can it power Laptop LCDs? by GotMilk? (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @04:13PM
  • Sinclair Spectrum by mircea (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @04:09PM
  • by jonathanclark (29656) on Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:03PM (#1816109) Homepage
    compared to other micro boards used for robotics:

    pros
    - low power ussage when idle
    - lots of ram (for the size)
    - good number of io/ports. good for controlling servo motors and reading digital sensors.
    - fairly fast. Probably good enough to do some image processing.
    - ethernet useful for fast experimentation in tethered mode.
    - nice environment to work in (linux!)

    cons
    - Needs at least one A/D converter.
    - Wireless Ethernet would be more useful. Autonomous robots aren't going to be able to use plain ethernet.
  • Re:sounds good for robots/JumpTec DimmPC by drenehtsral (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:52AM
  • Size Matters by adamx12 (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @11:38AM
  • Scalability by adamx12 (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @05:41AM
  • Re:Size Matters by Misanthropy (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @08:19PM
  • LCD displays by horape (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @01:41AM
  • Re:Z80 by Kento (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @08:43PM
  • Re:sounds good for robots/JumpTec DimmPC by Zurk (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @08:44AM
  • Re:Ender's game by Zurk (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @08:50AM
  • Nice for embedded systems, but... by Cpt_Kirks (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:48AM
  • Re:Size Matters by Inspector (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @03:39AM
  • Re:Awesome!! by Spooks (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @03:05PM
  • Re:Anything you darn-well want to! by Digital_Fusion (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @01:24PM
  • Damn that's small. Now how about this? by Microlith (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @06:00PM
  • Re:Damn that's small. Now how about this? by Microlith (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @06:02PM
  • Re:A question... by BLBishop (Score:2) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:21PM
  • Re:Very nice by Bastian (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @12:41PM
  • Re:Very nice by Bastian (Score:1) Wednesday July 07 1999, @04:55PM
  • Re:Nice, but dog slow... by rodle (Score:1) Tuesday July 06 1999, @02:09PM
  • Altair Anyone???? by MalbaThaan (Score:2) Tuesday July 06 1999, @05:07PM
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