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Skolelinux Project Releases Version 1.0 131
jakobgrimstveit writes "After about three years of hard work, Skolelinux (with its own cute Tux-with-bag-mascot) 1.0 is released to the public. The distribution was started as a reaction to how much the Norwegian schools and the government relied on systems using closed source. Skolelinux is meant to be an easy way to set up a large and secure network of LTSP thin clients (normally PXE boot) for regular users. The Skolelinux-organization won the Norwegian Free Software Prize in 2002. The distribution is based in Debian GNU/Linux, and is also being used and evaluated [1] [2] several places in Africa due to its low demands for the client PC. Kudos to the developers and good luck!"
Great! (Score:2, Insightful)
But what is it with kde2?
Might have been to make resource requirements lower for the thin clients.. but..
Re:Great! (Score:5, Informative)
Thin clients run KDE3 just as well as KDE2 - it depends on the thin client server.
Re:Great! (Score:2)
Re:Great! (Score:4, Insightful)
AlexB:
What would it take to maintain your own packages?
Re:Great! (Score:4, Informative)
Time we can use on enhancing Skolelinux in other ways - Skolelinux is not at all a perfect product.
KDE is such an important component in the distribution, that it has to be maintained well and just work.
There's work in progress on using sarge and sid as the base distribution for Skolelinux, but that's at earliest 1.2
Re:Great! (Score:1)
Re:Great! (Score:3, Insightful)
people can their job is far more important than running the latest foo 4.9.177
Schools in US are tight (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:1)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:1)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:1)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:1)
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:5, Interesting)
Guidelines on how to make an OS X machine part of a Skolelinux network are available in Norwegian - translations to English will definitely follow shortly.
See http://developer.skolelinux.no/~klaus/notater/a28
The book Klaus refers to is being translated these days.
Re:Schools in US are tight (Score:2)
Perhaps the mac folks value the usability of the macintosh and the ability to get work done easily more than they value linux costing nothing, and they see a Linux Zealot asshole who would try to force on their children a non user-friendly piece of technology and who will instantly dismiss any legitimate concern or grievance about the software being to hard to use with phrases like "quit spreading M$ FUD about linux being hard to use", "the problem is that p
Fun Fact (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Fun Fact (Score:3, Funny)
That explains why their logo is a penguin with a hat on backwards and a backpack. All Norwegian children are now expected to conform to that look, or else peer pressure will get the best of them and they will commit suicide.
Re:Fun Fact (Score:1)
Re:Fun Fact (Score:1)
Tux had to adapt to Norwegian school kids
In other news: Toy stores are all sold out of those fluffy penguins.
Seriously, the school kids love tux.
Re:Fun Fact (Score:1)
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Re:Fun Fact (Score:1)
You go to Norway or Denmark now and you stare in disbelief that these people who are so nice and polite were doing that sort of thing a few hundred years ago.
Anyway, linux..earlier => better
--Joey
Re:Fun Fact (Score:1)
"Skål" is the right way to spell it, but I guess you will pronounce it skole anyways
Re:Fun Fact (Score:2)
--Joey
Re:Fun Fact (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Fun Fact (Score:2)
Selfoelgig det er hvordan jeg uttale det med englesk.
Vi snakkes,
--Joey
Re:Fun Fact (Score:2, Informative)
And yes, I'm Swedish.
Re:Fun Fact (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh well.....
I am Spanish speaker.... (Score:2)
Insensitive clod whatever.
Re:Fun Fact (Score:2)
Re:Fun Fact (Score:2)
Actually, I think it's 'skål', but my grandparents (of Norwegian descent here in the US) had a sign on the wall with a troll on skis holding a beer mug and it said 'skol'. Maybe it's an Americanized or Texanized spelling.
Bad name (Score:3, Funny)
sounds too much like
SKOAL linux (linux for rednecks)
or
SCO Linux (Linux for litigious bastards and masochists)
Re:Bad name (Score:1)
So...
Which one was it?
Re:Bad name (Score:1)
Re:Bad name (Score:1)
Sweet Dreams are made from Linux, or so it would seem.
Re:Bad name (Score:1)
SCO Linux (Linux for litigious bastards [caldera.com] and masochists)
Re:Bad name (Score:1)
sounds too much like
SKOAL linux (linux for rednecks)
Well, if you just mispronounce anything enough it'll sound like something completly different :)
The 'o' sound is quite different from yours, and americans seem 100% unable to pronounce it (period). Also, the whole word is pronounced with a much more (eerm) straight intonation.
Re:Norwegian linux legacy (Score:1)
Uuuh. I guess you're trolling about Linus, but anyhow - there are many developers from Germany, France and Denmark, as well as Latvia and Brazil to mention a few.
Skolelinux is a Norwegian project only by its name and origin.
Scandinavians all look alike to you, I suppose :-) (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Scandinavians all look alike to you, I suppose (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Norwegian linux legacy (Score:2)
Plone site still holding up! (Score:1)
Re:Plone site still holding up! (Score:5, Informative)
I have set up a combination of Squid and Apache to be able to survive such load.
If you try to use the dynamic pages, you'1l get an error from Squid.
I'll document the setup on those pages later on.
Re:Plone site still holding up! (Score:1)
I have set up a combination of Squid and Apache to be able to survive such load.
Good work! :-)
Regarding bittorrent. (Score:1)
Re:Regarding bittorrent. (Score:1)
Re:Plone site still holding up! (Score:1)
IT'S A TRAP!!! (Score:2, Funny)
It's just SCO trying to prove they own Linux!
Why so many distros? (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:2, Insightful)
Linus' idea behind Linux was that OSs should be like cars: The more the marrier. Would you really enjoy living in a world where Red Hat or Novell is the only Linux distributor? Choice is key.
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:2)
Free software - which allows everyone to start their own distro - was Richard Stallman's idea, Linus just contributed to the already vast bank of free software.
(and Linux was proprietary to begin with, it was liberated in 1992 when Linus changed the license to the GNU GPL.)
Here's the history of GNU [gnu.org]
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:1)
Linux wasn't really proprietary, it was open with a stricter license than the GPL. It could not be sold at all. It was later changed to the GPL so (among other things) people could charge distribution costs.
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:2)
In fact, software had always been free. Back in the 60's, all software was free. There was no such thing as nonfree software. No programmer thought much about passing software around, it was all shared, with no license (sort of an implicit public domain).
Then Bill Gates came along and invented nonfree software (well, maybe not invented, but he was one of the larger proponents in the early days).
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:2)
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:2, Interesting)
As far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier! While new users might be confused (I dont even have my new computer yet, and I've already downloaded 4 varieties of GNU/Linux, FreeBSD and now I'm getting Debian...), they'll find that they want in a distro if they just look long enough. What needs to quit is this "haha, that gentoo zealot would reply, but he's too busy compiling his response!" or "FreeBSDZ R DYING!". I know that *BSD ha
Re:Why so many distros? (Score:3, Insightful)
But a terrific example is Knoppix. It fits a particular niche. And it in turn is derived from Debian Linux. Sounds like a phylogenetic tree to me.
Skolelinux is really a client program adapted from Linux to meet a specific need. Given it's language localization, too, it has really defined its niche. More power to 'em!
In the older news (Score:4, Informative)
Re:In the older news (Score:2)
Re:In the older news (Score:2, Informative)
Bergen is only using Linux on their _servers_ - hopefully Linux clients will follow shortly.
Re:In the older news (Score:1)
And luckily for me I have convinced the people in charge of the school computers to let me install none other than SkoleLinux!
Can't wait to start using Linux machines at school as of August + I get root
Skol, skol, skol, skol! (Score:3, Funny)
Well, its better than the Free Software Song anyway.
[Time to find out how US-centric moderation is...]
K12Linux.org (Score:3, Insightful)
Essential effort... (Score:1)
Freeciv (Score:1)
DistroWatch (Score:1)
Atleast that site hasn't been Slashdotted, and is sure to load quickly. :)
Skoal? (Score:1, Redundant)
Skoal Linux? (Score:1, Funny)
You might be a Linux RedNeck if,
* You're 'fixin' to install the latest version
of the kernel.
* You wear a Stetson when you're programming.
* You have a SKOAL Can in your CD-ROM Drive.
* Your root password is "Bubba".
* Your outgoing FAXes, using efax of course,
have tobacco stains on them.
* You have a spit cup hanging from your
computer.
SkoleLinux was in the press here not so long ago.. (Score:2)
They have 93 schools out of ~3200, less than 3% that have tested it. Far far less that have gone into full-scale deployment. Not to get anyone down or anything, but it's hardly a raging success after three years.
Linux still moves like a glacier. You don't want to get in its way, regaining ground is pretty hopeless, but it's not like
Re:SkoleLinux was in the press here not so long ag (Score:1)
We know that things takes time in spite of positively reports [skolelinux.no] as the one from Statskonsult [statskonsult.no] that concludes:
Skolelinux has taken the action p
Re:Wow (Score:1)
Re:Learn to spell (Score:4, Funny)
Norwegian, maybe?
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1)
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1)
The name is "Skolelinux" - with a capital "S" and a small "l".
http://www.skolelinux.org/no/press/
Re:Learn to spell (Score:5, Funny)
This is all the Norwegian you need to know [c2i.net] (download the wav file!).
Re:Learn to spell (Score:2)
For the norwegian impaired: This is an almost traditional sound clip on the Internet among norwegians. Originally taped in 1989, it is the recording of a father from the northern parts of Norway trying to (rather unsuccessfully) repair a laundry machine. He manages to continually swear for alomst three minutes, without
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1, Troll)
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1)
The Internet connection is of course by smoke signals over to Sweden. Bit of a latency and rather poor bandwith, perhaps, but it's wireless. "Laundry machines" is what we call the kind of people that works by the frozen riveres, trying desperatly to clean clothes with snow.
History of Internet (Score:1)
NORSAR - an array of seismographic stations listening for nuclear explosions in the USSR - was connected to a US network over a satellite circuit, around 1970. In 1979 the first production TCP/IP connection was made to US networks from the UK and Norway.
</trivia>
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1)
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1)
Hadde ikke forventa å se +3 på den der
Translation (Score:2)
Seems like there is a lot of Norwegians with moderator points today.
Re:Learn to spell (Score:1)
Re:Learn to spell (Score:2)
Still, I would avoid the "anglo-" as I don't like Latin contaminations in germanic languages (it confuses my few neurons left).
And again, I've been here long enough to know that there is no such thing as correct Norwegian... I'll just claim it's nynorsk. Or trøndersk. Or innvandrerdialekt.
Re:Learn to spell (Score:2, Informative)
Skolelinux also goes under the name "Debian-Edu" (as in Education), as it's a modded Debian distribution - tailored for schools.
Re:Welcome to a new distribution ! (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Welcome to a new distribution ! (Score:2, Insightful)
Here's hoping SkoleLinux finds its intended audience. And stays maintained.
Re:Welcome to a new distribution ! (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Welcome to a new distribution ! (Score:5, Informative)
The number of schools showing interest for Linux and Skolelinux has surged.
http://www.skolelinux.no/testskoler.php?lang=en
The project is three years old, and now is when Linux is really starting to take of in Norway - not too long ago, Bergen became one of Europe's greatest switchers.
> Linux needs a couple of well maintained distros, not willions of roll-your-owns
Skolelinux is based on Debian, which is well-maintained and stable. Skolelinux is just adaptions and Debian made easy.
Re:Question for Alex (Score:1)
It mainly depends on the amount of memory you've got in the servers.
Re:Question for Alex (Score:1)
They are running Gentoo on the servers
Currently they have the server and the 3 first clients and if testing goes well they will by another 27 clients and convert the old P133's to clients as well...
So basicly more schools are beginning to look into the possibility to use thin clients in that envirement... But these guys thought of it 3 years ago.. wauw...
I for one - personally