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The Author of Ping is Reported Dead

Posted by CmdrTaco on Thu Nov 23, 2000 02:14 PM
from the may-he-rest-in-peace dept.
Wedman writes: "This is in the Nanog Archive, dated 2000-11-21: 'Mike Muuss, the author of the PING program used on networks everywhere, died last night in a traffic accident on US route 95 in Maryland. He was an alumnus of Johns Hopkins." Seems appropriate on Thanksgiving to thank a man who created something that we all rely on every day.
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  • ... by Garthnak (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:35AM
  • My condolences (Score:5)

    by rice_burners_suck (243660) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:37AM (#604629) Journal

    This is sad news to read, regardless of whether or not its thanksgiving. May we all remember his name each time we use ping.

    As for all of you who are cracking jokes about his death, I don't think they are funny at all.

    Kindest regards,

    Nathaniel G H

  • Re:PICTURE OF MIKE MUUSS by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @10:19AM
  • Re:/. by linuxgod (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @06:23PM
  • Re:Huh? Where? by Dr. Sp0ng (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @06:41PM
  • Re:My condolences by Joe_User (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:44PM
  • Moment of Madness by The OPTiCIAN (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:52PM
  • Re:Slashdot should not report on deaths by CaroJohnson (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:59PM
  • Re:Honored... by CaroJohnson (Score:2) Saturday November 25 2000, @08:15AM
  • Re:No. by puckhead (Score:1) Saturday November 25 2000, @02:03PM
  • Re:The best way to celebrate the deceased... by CowbertPrime (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @04:15PM
  • Hello, Is There Anybody Out There? by crepent (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @04:24PM
  • Re:A song (With apologies to Eric Clapton) by MoS0wNsj00 (Score:1) Saturday November 25 2000, @05:04PM
  • He seems fine to me :-) by vanguard (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @04:29PM
  • Re:/. by linuxgod (Score:1) Saturday November 25 2000, @08:31PM
  • missed by SpaceKow (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @05:05PM
  • Re:100% Packet Loss by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @05:12PM
  • Re:OLD! by Enahs (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @05:28PM
  • Re:It is sad by JurriAlt137n (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:37AM
  • Re:It is sad by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:39AM
  • In his own words (Score:5)

    by tagishsimon (175038) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:42AM (#604648) Homepage
  • BRL CAD (Score:5)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:42AM (#604649)

    Mike Muuss was also the author of BRL CAD, one of the most useful 3D modeling programs out there. It has one of the most intense CSG systems out there. I don't know what its licensing is, but I hope someone (with a strong graphics and geometry background) picks this up.

    IIRC, he was working on real-time raytracing systems.

  • Route 95 by BlowCat (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:43AM
  • Bad Jokes by Craig Davison (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:46AM
  • Funeral Details by mp3car (Score:2) Sunday November 26 2000, @01:30PM
  • Re:/. by linuxgod (Score:1) Sunday November 26 2000, @07:43PM
  • You're right... (Score:3)

    by tswinzig (210999) on Thursday November 23 2000, @05:55PM (#604654) Journal
    Because bad jokes are not politically correct.

    Think about the children!

    "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
  • Re:Would this be appropriate? by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @06:11PM
  • For more meaningful discussion... by GandalfGreyhame (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @06:27PM
  • PING by myster0n (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:16AM
  • Re:/. by linuxgod (Score:1) Monday November 27 2000, @06:52AM
  • Re:Slashdot should not report on deaths by panic911 (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @06:28PM
  • Re:Huh? Where? by AIXadmin (Score:1) Monday November 27 2000, @08:13AM
  • Re:It is sad by Zico (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @06:29PM
  • Damn... by 1337d00d (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @07:20PM
  • Re:My condolences by wwphx (Score:1) Wednesday November 29 2000, @11:41AM
  • Everyone should ping M$ for 30 seconds. by c0sm0 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:17AM
  • Ping... (Score:3)

    by Munelight (192694) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:18AM (#604665) Homepage
    Ping timed out...
    100% packet loss.

    Let his name live on as long as his program.
  • Here's to you, Mike by eschasi (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @07:55PM
  • Bad ping by thopkins (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:19AM
  • Re:Would this be appropriate? by BluBrick (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @08:13PM
  • Re:OLD! by compwiz3688 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:47AM
  • by TrIaX (59440) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:48AM (#604670)

    Could you ping my hostname,
    if I routed to heaven?
    Will it be the same,
    if I routed to heaven?
    I must hack long, and echo on,
    cause I know that there are no
    Pings in Heaven.

    Would you know my addr,
    if I routed to heaven?
    Would you scan my ports,
    if I routed to heaven?
    I know I'll code my way, through night and day
    Cause I know that there are no
    Pings in Heaven.

    ECHO can show you around,
    ECHO can help you see,
    ECHO can clog your pipe,
    And have you screaming at script kiddies,
    Script kiddies...

    (flashing routing lights...)

    K, it's early, and I have no coffee in me yet, I'll probably look back on this later and shoot myself.. :)

  • by isorox (205688) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:49AM (#604671) Homepage Journal
    His spirit will live on in the form of ping. There can be no greater legacy then to leave behind a tool that is used by millions every day.
  • Re:A song (With apologies to Eric Clapton) by Anonymous Coward (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:51AM
  • Re:thankful? (Slightly OT) by mclearn (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:51AM
  • Re:OLD! by Tigger's Pet (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:55AM
  • Ping by Ashran (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:58AM
  • My Prayers are with him. by Ghost-in-the-shell (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:58AM
  • Re:Ugh... by UnknownSoldier (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:00AM
  • Ping is a Damn Fine Hack by nexus (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @08:38PM
  • No. by TheLink (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @08:41PM
  • I stole code from him actually.. by larva (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:15PM
  • I-95 Sucks... by kyoko21 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:26PM
  • Re:speaking of ping... by Zagadka (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:36PM
  • I knew him (Score:4)

    by Mr. Protocol (73424) on Thursday November 23 2000, @10:48PM (#604683)
    I knew Mike professionally for about twenty years. I visited him at BRL several times, and chatted with him at some of the early UNIX meetings. He and Doug Kingston (now at Morgan Stanley Peat Marwick or whatever they're named this week) made a teriffic team in the days when keeping a national TCP/IP net running took the cooperation of everyone involved. When the main routers were LSI-11s, you needed to know the tricks, and Mike knew them all.

    He went the extra mile to help people all over, though it was no part of his job to do so. BRL didn't treat him as a sinecure and let him have his head. He put in a full day doing BRL stuff and then helped other folks around the country on his own time.

    He was just an all-around great guy. One of the First has died.
  • More info (Score:3)

    by locutus074 (137331) on Thursday November 23 2000, @10:01AM (#604684)
    Check out the article in his local newspaper [mdnewsnet.com] for more information.

    --

  • The only way to be sure... by Gendou (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:08AM
  • Death in the digital age by fleener (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:08AM
  • Shame by nightfire-unique (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:09AM
  • Another tragic early end. by cheekymonkey_68 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:14AM
  • by Gendou (234091) on Thursday November 23 2000, @10:16AM (#604689) Homepage
    Don't mourn the deceased. That only insults them. Instead, sit around, have a few laughs, talking about what they did or accomplished. Everyone here is making jokes about Muuss because, well, they feel connected to him in someway.

    I'm sure that if Muuss was reading /. right now, he'd be laughing at these jokes as much as any of us.

    Let me tell you why humor exists... we have humor so that we can cope with the tragic events that populate our lives. It's a way of coping with loss... and a pretty damn good one too. Besides, I can barely think of any better ways to respect the dead than by calling attention to their accomplishments through humor.

    Although, I must apologize for contributing to the excessive "destination unreachable" jokes. *sob* I didn't read everyone's posts before I cracked that one.

  • Sticks and stones by Pseudonymus Bosch (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @01:33AM
  • Webpages of the dead by Pseudonymus Bosch (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @01:38AM
  • TTL Expired by _dim (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @01:54AM
  • Re:Brother Ok by pallex (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @02:05AM
  • R.I.P. by CmdrFletcher (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @02:26AM
  • Re:thankful? by fredrik70 (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @02:30AM
  • Re:thankful? by fredrik70 (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @02:34AM
  • Re:Memorial by Bill Currie (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:25AM
  • I say... by Beowulf_Boy (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @10:43AM
  • Re:Although his body died by CBoy (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:15PM
  • Not so dim.. (OT) by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:28PM
  • E.R. by stud9920 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:36PM
  • Re:In his own words by corvi42 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:38PM
  • Muuss invented the default gateway and TTCP too. by Joseph_ShawII (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:40PM
  • Re:The best way to celebrate the deceased... by ShadowDragon (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:41PM
  • by uksv29 (167362) on Thursday November 23 2000, @12:45PM (#604705) Homepage

    I had a similar experience earlier this year when Craphead (he posted a few times on Slashdot) died before the Linux Beer Hike. His site was eventually pulled by his ISP in Norway and I wish I had mirrored it first.

    Your point about sites being pulled when the domain expires is a good one. The problem is that there is no 'standard' way of archiving them into cold storage where they can later be retrieved. At least with the older media (newspapers/mags etc) someone would usually keep a copy somwhere so it could be looked at by suceeding generations but not with a website.

    This bitrot really needs addressing lest our decendants ask us what people posted and read in the exciting and dynamic days on the early Internet. Once the rm -rf has done its work nothing remains.

    I am also a little saddened by this death, I never knew who was the creator of ping but use it everyday. I guess he, like Jon Postel, has left a little of himself on everyones computer and thereby improved the world a little for all those of us who are left behind.

    Mike Muuss, thank you.

  • Huh? Where? by dubner (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:48PM
  • Re:speaking of ping... by fredrik70 (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @02:43AM
  • 95 by CrAlt (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @03:16AM
  • Irony : He who pinged, kept alive by hmobius (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @04:01AM
  • Best Ping Story (quoted from his site) by R-2-RO (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @04:09AM
  • Don't be so critical by DVega (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @04:20AM
  • moment of silence by selectspec (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @05:04AM
  • Honored... by TermAnnex (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @05:13AM
  • It was no accident.. by kinnunen (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:50PM
  • PICTURE OF MIKE MUUSS by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:56PM
  • Re:Memorial for Mike by dattaway (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:57PM
  • Re:thankful? by jallen02 (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:57PM
  • Haiku by 575 (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:12AM
  • by mwillis (21215) on Thursday November 23 2000, @12:59PM (#604719) Homepage
    Why does slash run death stories? Does no-one remember why moderation was implemented?

    Since it is clear that Slashdot trolls cannot behave themselves, it is simply inappropriate for Slashdot to cover deaths. At the very least, ban AC's (like this I guess) from commenting on death notices. Let's not strip the poor guy of his dignity by letting asocial jerks run riot.
  • ping review by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @01:00PM
  • Re:Although his body died by dattaway (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @01:05PM
  • More info - News article by Wedman (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:20AM
  • It is sad (Score:5)

    by jjr (6873) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:21AM (#604723) Homepage
    To see all the bad taste of some the post that are put up here. I wish his family well may he find peace.
  • Would this be appropriate? by Glowing Fish (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:21AM
  • This is bizarre... by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @05:22AM
  • Re:My condolences by fatphil (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @05:39AM
  • Cars and death and ping by smoondog (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:23AM
  • the ping is dead by techmuse (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @05:39AM
  • # ping muuss by DrQu+xum (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:24AM
  • Re:Memorial by Xiphia (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @05:52AM
  • Re:Death in the digital age by jbarnett (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @06:01AM
  • Re:Slashdot should not report on deaths by jbarnett (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @06:09AM
  • The king of ping is dead. by AFCArchvile (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @06:18AM
  • Re:Ping... by Munelight (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @06:42AM
  • Re:Memorial by LiENUS (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:15AM
  • 100% Packet Loss (Score:5)

    by SubtleNuance (184325) on Thursday November 23 2000, @11:18AM (#604736) Journal
    Like most people here I use Ping daily. Like most people here I had never heard of Mike Muuss.

    But from what Ive read of his writing on his homepage (linked from above [army.mil]) and his letter to the InterNet Historical Society (linked from above [internet-history.org]) it seems Mike would have had a wry sense of humour.

    Mike seems to have been a massive influence on great area's of computing (Internet, TCPIP, UNIX) and that should be celebrated and tech people should be Thankful for his efforts, and due honour paid now that he has passed.

    But when a person dies, absolute reverence does not exclude comments of some brevity.

    I am SURE, as I would have, foreseen the 100% Packet Loss jokes coming when I was dead - and I would have found the idea very amusing and quite complementary... Ill assume Mike Muss dosnt mind*...

    *I know this sounds presumptuous but I think I you would see my point... Apologies to those who find it so nonetheless.
  • Ironic by pyth (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:32AM
  • Re:A song (With apologies to Eric Clapton) by Felinoid (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:36AM
  • Sad truth... by Kitanin (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:37AM
  • speaking of ping... by darthpenguin (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:44AM
  • Re:Memorial (Score:5)

    by ctj2 (113870) on Thursday November 23 2000, @01:43PM (#604741) Homepage

    His work site will remain up because it has so much information that is off interest to the world. There is no need for it to ever go off line.

    His personal server is still up and will remain up for as long as I can keep it running.

  • Re:OLD! by Frédéric (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @11:46AM
  • Re:Memorial by Admiral Burrito (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @12:15PM
  • by dattaway (3088) on Thursday November 23 2000, @01:55PM (#604744) Homepage
    [Bill Gates] should be thanked...

    And the mafia should be thanked for their contributions to local communities. No thanks.
  • Re:BRL CAD (Score:3)

    by ctj2 (113870) on Thursday November 23 2000, @02:12PM (#604745) Homepage

    Mike has a working real time raytracier. The real time raytracer is handling >5000 solids at this time, rendering at ARL and then transmitting the results via ATM to other research labs.

    The last major milestone for the BRL-CAD was raytracing a scene with over 3,000,000,000 solids. Yes, that is 3 billion.

    The license agreement is not "Free" as in beer or "Free" as in "Freedom." You need to sign a simple license and fax it to ARL. They send back the license agreement with a password. Download the program and have fun.

  • Re:The best way to celebrate the deceased...PARTY! by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @02:29PM
  • Re:Would this be appropriate? by FiDooDa (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:24AM
  • Re:Would this be appropriate? by Flavio (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:25AM
  • Brother Ok by All Dat (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:27AM
  • OLD! by Frédéric (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:28AM
  • Re:OLD! by Wedman (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:29AM
  • Re:It is sad by KarmaChameleon (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:29AM
  • Re:thankful? by DrQu+xum (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:29AM
  • by James_G (71902) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:30AM (#604754)
    Saw this last night. There's a little more information in their article which can be found here [theregister.co.uk].

    From their article:

    The accident happened at 9.30pm (New York time) on route 95 as a result of a previous accident. Mike hit a car stuck in the middle of the road and was pushed into the path of an oncoming tractor.

  • We need a digital cemetary... by ave19 (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @06:49AM
  • Re:Death in the digital age by Neil Franklin (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @06:56AM
  • R.I.P. by jd (Score:2) Friday November 24 2000, @08:16AM
  • /. by linuxgod (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @02:42PM
  • Re:Death in the digital age by fleener (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @08:42AM
  • Thank you, Michael. by dstone (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @02:46PM
  • Re:The best way to celebrate the deceased... by laborit (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @02:46PM
  • Thanks CMDR TACO by swagr (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @08:50AM
  • Re:WHO GIVES A SHIT? by swagr (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @08:54AM
  • Another Victim of the Clinton Administration by Anonymous Coward (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:04PM
  • ROFLMAO by kinnunen (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:19PM
  • wow by florka (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:27PM
  • Re:Memorial by xyphor (Score:1) Friday November 24 2000, @10:10AM
  • Story of ping by Anonymous Squonk (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @03:36PM
  • Re:OLD! by Frédéric (Score:2) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:31AM
  • RIP by Col. Panic (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:32AM
  • More info by Argy (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:33AM
  • Re:Everyone should ping M$ for 30 seconds. by Col. Panic (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:33AM
  • Memorial (Score:5)

    by GeZ117 (162744) on Thursday November 23 2000, @09:34AM (#604773)

    Please all have one minute of ping in his honor:
    ping -c 60 ftp.arl.mil
    That's so strange to look at http://ftp.arl.mil/~mike/ [arl.mil] and thinks this guy talking to you, and giving you a mailto: link is dead. It's like if there was a ghost speaking to you.

    What happens to dead's homepage ? Do someone close them ? Or do they stand, like a simulacrum of eternity ?

    Internet is something too young to be accustomed to death

    It's a sad news.

  • Small tought by YellowSubRoutine (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:35AM
  • Ugh... by Free Bird (Score:1) Thursday November 23 2000, @09:35AM
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