Journal zogger's Journal: More high level racketeering and gangsterism 17
These various private "central banks" around the world, for the most part, and their subsidiary smaller banks, the ones who can create "money" out of thin air and not only charge you to pay back the principle, but are allowed to charge interest, are just examples of high level organized criminal racketeering. It's a *con* and has always been a con since this magic beans scam was created, and jimmy stewart can keep rotting. One of the slickest propaganda movies ever, "it's a wonderful life". Dang smooth it was.
Now they are throwing out their latest crime, getting aggressively hysterical about it, outright extortionist mob threats, *again*, this is the SECOND time now they have come right out and made this threat, before it was give us more created money digits "or else", now it is they will crash the economy on purpose if they are audited. This is RICO if ever anything was. It's threats, intimidation, it is extortion. Clear cut and unambiguous.
No, OUR economic system of actually working and producing wealth and providing service to that wealth for a living won't crash, but THEIR racketeering system needs to be smashed and these threats and high level skimming cons need to be ended, and all their BS "contracts" and smaller extortion schemes need to be ripped up and used for kindling, then the rest of the planet can go back to work without worrying about their criminal actions, or being put into perpetual multigenerational peonage.
And they have the nads to demand even more, when they have had the ultimate gig to "make money". How frakkiing greedy can you get?? HOW the hell can you fail to make money when you are able to poof create it, either 100% outright like the Fed, or via fractional reserve lending and get to create 90% of it? How can any company be so lame as to not be able to turn a megaprofit with such a sweet deal?? Their entire so called "product" is just computer entries!
It is past mind boggling, so I do NOT think the money is the issue with them, they GOT all the money already, so it has to be something else, and it's the raw power they have over society, along with whatever future plans for a one world government with them as the slave masters. That's *it*, that's all that is left once you have all the money, raw power over other humans is their driving lust, and they want to perpetuate this racket forever and two days.
We still need to audit the Fed, AFTER it is emergency nationalized and WITH those gents in shackles and hauled in front of committees and judges every day to testify, then back to a cell, and then we need to outlaw private banks.
Our national bank needs to be *nationalized*, then we can also have public state banks and branches, and we can then stop charging ourselves usurious interest on our own money just to turn millionaires into billionaires and billionaires into multibillionaires. Enough's just quite damn enough here.
Either that or it's a fear of a run (Score:2)
And that even with the emergency funds, they're still *dangerously overleveraged* to the point of being *exactly* what that appears, scared to let their depositors and investors know who got how much.
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With the FDIC getting closer and closer to "broke", might as well pull my money from the bank now and start investing in tin can and shovel manufacturers... even if they're all imported from China.
I practice what I preach (Score:1)
I look as it like this, do you really want money, or what that money can give you in the form of stuff, goods, services and so on, now or in the future? I want the latter, that's primarily what is useful, because you can physically get your hands on it and sock it away and not have to rely on big electronic promises from known chronic serial liars..
so, because this is still the US and I can't avoid their crap phony money and perpetual debt system entirely, I maintain a single simple checking account
moof (Score:1)
We still need to audit the Fed, AFTER it is emergency nationalized
Nice plan, punish one of our thoroughly-corrupt overlords by giving all their power to our other thoroughly-corrupt overlord. Kinda like elections.
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We have potentially better control over it, and can run the currency system as a not for profit public good, instead of issuing the currency itself as a private profit business now. I know what you are saying, swapping to official (corrupt) government instead of what are in essence private (corrupt) contractors, but it is the lesser of the only two choices we have theoretically. We should have perfectly clear transparency then. Unless you want to go to a thousand different private currencies or something, w
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If there were private currencies they would presumably be based on gold, silver, or some other commodity. That there were competitors would work out just fine. The U.S. dollar has lost what, 95% of its value in the last century? Private money could hardly do worse.
Somewhat (Score:1)
We have some now, private money but it is touted more as barter credits, but the most visible one got squashed by the government, the silver backed norfed. It was getting too popular.
With that said, you still can get official real constitutional money, silver and gold and platinum coins, which are issued completely by the US mint and have nothing to do with the private Federal reserve bank. They are spiffy. I have "some", along with a new selection of the old "real" coinage before it went all clad alloy che
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There will never be incentive for those within the system to change it. It's up to those who see what's happening to find ways to fight it from the outside. As for value backed currency, yes the feds have shut down the Liberty Dollar, which (for all its faults) is a real shame. Their stated reason was that it purports to confuse the public by having a suggested equivalent value denominated in U.S. dollars. Regardless of the truth of that, if that's their claim, then perhaps the next step is simply to en
round money (Score:1)
I do that occasionally. When we received notice a few months back that we couldn't keep our flock of cluckers (conflict with the commercial poultry side of the farm we live on), I had to come up with a way to deal with that fast, we had a lot of them. Sold some, gave some away and others I butchered to eat.(we have a few left but not many, waiting for cooler weather and less flies for the last push) But..at the time our freezer space was full already so I needed another one. Jumped on craigslist, within hal
Silverbug (Score:2)
Agreed -- actually I've always preferred silver to gold. It has a ratio of value to mass that's more conducive to most daily transactions, it has more industrial and health uses, and it has just as good a pedigree when it comes to being used as a medium of exchange.
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You have the *illusion* of potentially better control over it. So is this really all about just what makes you feel better? Yes, theoretically we the people have potentially better control over govt. than the banks. But while bankers have to threaten and throw tantrums to extort money from us, govt. can (often quietly) just go ahead and do it. As on our current health care system, I don't want anyone to think I'm defending the status quo, just that I'm saying that,
all government is socialist??? (Score:1)
I guess if you want to quantify it that way, that I would still be in favor of some government, as long as it was more honest than now. I just want the money issuance and central bank to be owned by we the people and not a private for profit corporation, and to run the official government funding in such a way as that no personal or corporate income taxes are necessary to run government, that which you make would be yours to keep and do whatever with. That's SOCIALIST?? How do you get there from here??
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Yes, nationalizing private companies or an industry is socialism. So when you say give all the banks to govt., I run screaming just as much as when another says give all the healthcare to govt. I'm not sure what the Fed is, I guess some bastardized spawn of govt. and business like Fannie and Freddie, and I'm not advocating anarchy here, but it just defies reason that the answer to entities being too big and powerful and too few is to consolidate them into one really big monster. As if actually multiplying
Property taking byconversion and coercion (Score:1)
Nationalizing the bank is in essence just removing the private contractor status the federal reserve bank was given by the Federal reserve act, and going back to the previous model (in a way). It was a "legal" theft by coercion and conversion of what was rightfully all of the "we the people" folks. I just want it back. They stole it first. Nationalizing the Fed is just recovering property taken from the original owners. In the tradition of bad slashdot car analogies, if someone stole your car, and the polic
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Nationalizing the bank is in essence just...
Nationalizing something is not "just...". There are always going to be (significant) consequences and side effects (just as there is going the other way).
And our govt. was rightfully all of ours, a long time ago.
I just want it back.
Get our govt. bank, and then I'll consider it.
They stole it first.
Grow up, and think thru what it is you're contemplating.
so it is righting a wrong
So is Affirmative Action, to som
You've told me... (Score:2, Interesting)
..what you don't like, but I am not seeing any detailed constructive solutions being offered. I can guess it is just tear it all down maybe? Or what? it just might come to that, you might get something like that, a partial collapse followed by rebellion and that sort of thing and all sorts of "interesting times" and whatnot.
I'm just trying to offer some constructive ideas to help fix what is broken, and return the original ideals of a free people in a strictly regulated and limited government setting. and I
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Oh, that North Dakota bank and so on, right now they are one of only two states that aren't broke.
Whereby you've just successfully argued that even at a state level (given the way the vast majority of the states run things), govt. should not be running this.
But let's step back from this personal mislabeling. Just because I'm against your proposed system doesn't mean that I'm somehow *for* the current one, or for there being none at all. (Or are you autistic too?) And I don't think you're a Leftist primarily