Because the Communist dictatorship isn't relevant here.

These folks work for private companies that treat them this way.
In the Soviet Union, you would have literally worked for the Government, and a local Government council would have made the employment decisions.

China is an essentially capitalist market economy operating under a Communist dictatorship for the people.
It's honestly quite close to fascism, not that I expect you to understand the nuance.

Only if you contractually gave them that power.
Don't do that.

Yes.

No, it's not. It's property tax. I can vote every penny of my property tax away.
Try as I might, I'm unlikely to sway my landlord's rent by voting it away.

The interesting thing here, is you seem to think that municipal, local, and State government in the US is like China- where the Government is a distinct entity from the people. It's not.
I voted for my property taxes.

It's just one of those modern-day mysteries, like how farmer-heavy places vote red, and against things like food stamps, while around 13.5% of their yearly earnings come directly from the US Government entitlement programs.

But plot twist- in 2025, all the food crops are owned by Republicans.

Shove your soapbox up your ass.
Parent replied to a counterfactual point in their parent's assertion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Just about every American lives near farmland.
I live in one of the largest metro areas in the country, and I still live near farmland.
I'm wondering if you're American, or have ever been here?

Kind of.
They have access to electricity*.

* As long as they don't use more than ~8kWh a day, or between the hours of 1700-2100 when you should be eating and thanking the Party for your sustenance.

... are you really too stupid to understand the argument that's being made?

Maybe I used too many big words.
I'll try being more blunt- China has the per-capita output of a third world country. The largest third-world country there is- but still a third world country.

How the fuck is it that you think the news is tracking what's going on with them, you fucking idiot?

No. It will push them to be better, and then smaller.
If AI scaling were infinite, models would only get larger. Fortunately, it's not.
The result is they get bigger whenever someone finds a way to make larger models perform better again, and they smaller when someone finds a way to make smaller models run better again.

Complete bullshit.

Different models have different energy costs. (Prices are an proxy for this)
Those energy costs are directly based on how many parameters are active during inference. There is no magic in it.

Of the high performing open models right now, GPT-OSS is by far the cheapest to run, on account of its low number of active parameters, and MXFP4 packing.
DeepSeek V3 is about 800% more expensive per inference.
Compare that to a foundation western model, like GPT5, which is about 500% more expensive per inference.
And no, they're not coming to your phone any time soon.

The part you're leaving out for why Chinese electricity is so cheap, is because it has very little demand. The average Chinese household uses just 16% of the power of an average US household.
That's not because their shit is more efficient. It's because they don't have any shit.

You are right to.
The difference is Altman was talking about the total price, while DeepSeek is not counting the $20M in H800s they used.

I think you missed their point.

The market didn't adapt to shit. It was ordered to by the Federal Government with a threat of seizure if it did not comply.

No, it is absolutely still completely fucking bonkers.

As mentioned, it's a matter of degree- and they're a 10, while we're a 2 with a strong desire to reach 3.
When you get disappeared in China- literally fucking nobody knows where you went. You're just gone. Like you never fucking were.

When you get disappeared by an ICE person for breaking Federal law, you sit in a shithole prison camp and get access to the judicial system.
The US and China are not the same. The direction of the US is concerning, but if you can't see the difference, it's because you're blinded by your partisanship.