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Comment Re:Nurse diagnosed them, not the AI (Score 1) 81

You have never been a nurse. It is true that we need doctors to do doctor stuff and nurses to do nursing stuff. But nurse stuff is a lot bigger than you think it is.

Most of the time when you go to an ER, an Intake Nurse decides who gets seen first and which doctor to send you too. They do the triage and in order to do that the nurse has to have a very good idea of what your diagnosis is.

Like I said before - anyone can diagnosis correctly 90% of the time. But 90% is not 100%.

The reason the doctor does the official diagnosis even though the Nurse already knows what is wrong with you is that 10% of the time when it takes an extremely trained doctor.

Most of the time, any nurse that's been on the job more than a year has already diagnosed you and put the relevant text notes on your chart. The doctor usually just comes along and makes it official. Usually is not all the time so the doctor is very important. Also, making it official protects the nurse and hospital against law suits as the Doctor gets to say they made the decision, not the nurse.

But you missed my main point. The AI was not diagnosing the patient at all. They did not examine the patient, the Nurse did. Remember when I said the Doctor is very important? The AI is NOT important because the AI does NOT do what the doctor did:

Verify that the Nurse's observations were accurate.

Double check that the Nurse did not miss something.

Ask additional questions that the Nurse did not know to ask because she did not get an MD and the condition is very rare.

Because the AI did not do any of these things, the AI is not actually diagnosing anything. They are just looking at the Nurse's diagnosis notes and converting "blood in urine, history of uncontrolled diabetes" into Kidney Failure. That is not diagnosing, the nurse did that when they asked the patient screaming about blood coming out of his penis if he is a diabetic. The nurse asks that question because she suspects he is likely in kidney failure and wants to make sure.

Comment Problems with cloud seeding (Score 2) 25

Cloud seeding forces clouds to drop whatever moisture they have. This is not 'more' water, it is water stolen from areas down-wind.

But in many areas this makes sense - if down wind 100 miles does not have a drought, it makes sense to drop the moisture in the drought area. Or if down wind = the sea, well, obvious answer.

But the real problem is the pollution in drought prone areas. A little bit of iodide, salt, etc. is not a big deal. But people have real concerns about the long term effects of constant use of the chemicals.

Comment Re:A doctor's job is AI-proof! (Score 1) 31

There are several studies that indicate that AI is bad at taking low level jobs, but can totally decimate managerial jobs.

No one is foolish enough to think the CEO's and Presidents will go fire themselves, but some expect VP's and everyone down to middle management are going to be the first ones out the door.

Comment Nurse diagnosed them, not the AI (Score 4, Insightful) 81

The AI relied on the text records. Which were things the NURSE noticed and entered into the chart. The nurse did the hard part, examining the patient, asking the right questions.

You cannot diagnose just on blood pressure, heart rate, oxygen rate. You need to notice things like:

slurred speech
dilated eyes
excessive sweat
pale
red skin
rash
bruised

The thing is, it was a trained nurse that noticed these symptoms and WROTE THEM DOWN. And she usually knew exactly what it was, but waited for the doctor to say.

Anyone can diagnose correctly 90% of the time if you have the right information. Also note, diagnoising a problem is not like on House or Watson. 80+% of the time the answer is blindingly obviously.

Bleeding profusely from a jagged wound = knife attack
Patient comes in acting exactly like the 9 other drug addicts you got last month = using whatever the new/most common drug is.
Patient smelling of alcohol is not a big mystery
blood tests indicating high sugar = Diabetes
Long time diabetic with blood in urine = kidney failure
Immense pain in big toe from an overweight person = Gout

For most cases, any EMT can tell what the problem is. The problem is not the common cases, but the problematic ones,

For those "mysteries", do we want an AI diagnosing without a human confirming it? No. But we can probably save a bit of money by having the AI do it before a doctor confirms.

Comment Anti-immigration trying to do dog whistles (Score -1, Flamebait) 170

The talk about population is just an attempt to cover up what the proposal intends to do - leave the European Union. The proposal is not a breeding cap, but explicitly talks about stopping the immigration from nearby EU countries. We are talking about French, Italians, and Germans.

Wait a second, is England happy with Brexit? NOPE!

Horrible Idea. It will work out badly for them, just as it did for England - if they are stupid enough to do it.

The Swiss have a great economy in part because of immigration. It is an expensive place to live as compared with the nearby areas but they have jobs - good ones. Those immigrants are not poor people but intelligent, hard working, wealthy Europeans.

I doubt the Swiss will actually be stupid enough to leave the EU. The party in question realizes that most Swiss do not want to do this so they cover their racist anti-immigration stupidity by framing it as a population question.

The people agree that population is a problem, but hate the solution proposed by the racists.

Comment Re:"one-time, 5% wealth tax" (Score 1) 347

The One Time is real in that it is not a yearly tax repeated. It discourages billionaires from leaving because of the tax.

Say you are tight and do not trust them not to repeat it. That means:

1) They would have a ton more data. How much money raised and how many billionaires left the state after the first one, letting them calculate was it 'worth it', and tell them whether it it is worth it again - with the added knowledge that it would probably drive more billionaires out the 2nd time as this this would 'prove' it could happen again.

2) They would have to gather the votes again. Not a guarantee. And give more warning to the billionaires.

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The one time nature of the tax is an essential part of the bill and is honest in that they are not attempting to put a permanent tax on billionaires.

Comment Makes sense (Score 2) 83

Billions for Drones is a good investment - as long as we are getting millions of them. If that is the cost of 1 drone, then no.

But it should also involve a decrease elsewhere. Cut the ridiculously stupid battleship and replace it with a Drone carrier.

Comment Re:Chatbot Lies (Score 4, Informative) 103

The chatGPT makers are NOT among the smartest people, you have fallen victim to propaganda.

The technology behind ChatGPT was invented by:
  Dznuret Bahdanau, Kyunghyun Cho and Yoshua Bengi in
https://arxiv.org/abs/1409.0473/ in May of 2016.

Everyone else just copied their work with minor improvements and adding immense amount of memory and processing.

Most of the guys who currently are in charge of the Large Language Models are more interested in money than in science. They are above average intelligence but are in no way the smartest people on the planet.

there is a difference between a scientist that invents and/or discovers science, the engineers that figure out how to implement the science, and both are different than the money men that keep the gravy train rolling.

The guy at the top makes business decisions and never ever invents stuff. The scientists are lucky if they get paid anything for inventing it. The engineers always get paid - but not as much as the money guy on top.

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