>As the average net work in a bar jumps the moment Bill Gates walks into it. You wouldn't pretend that Bill Gates has the same standard of living of someone making $7.25 an hour, so why pretend there isn't an enormous gap between schools in wealthy districts and poor ones? There's a reason why no one talks about "failing public schools" in Westchester or the Hamptons.
Which is why teachers around here get paid more to work in bad schools. It doesn't help, though, the research shows. The best teachers still bail out of the schools because they want to work with better kids.
>You know perfectly well that teachers don't start and stop school when students do.
Sure. So do software engineers. How much time do software engineers spend coding on their own free time? More time than teachers spend prepping for class, especially after they've been teaching the class for a while.
>it would be more than balanced by working 50-70 hours a week when school is in session.
On the clock? Hah. No, teachers unions would eat such a proposed workweek alive. If, again, you're taking about other stuff, again, so do software engineers.
>Reasonable? The people claiming this wouldn't touch a teaching job for less than a six figure salary.
Ah, there's the ad hominem. Except you'd be wrong. I taught at a high school just last year, in fact. In addition to running a software consulting business.
>Earning a masters degree, having tens of thousands in student loans to pay off, being salaried and invariably working far beyond 40 hours a week...and that's before even getting to the students. How much would you want to get paid per hour, per kid for being a babysitter, disciplinarian, nurse and social worker.
A master's degree? Are we talking a community college instructor, now?
>And that's before even getting to the actual teaching part, where your performance reviews
What performance reviews? I suspect you're unfamiliar with how the education system actually works.
>Not for a penny under six figures.
You think a person with a bachelor's degree in any subject should make six digits out of college? That's hilarious. You're talking pharmacist-level salary, and pharmacists are a hell of a lot more educated (and attendant student debt) than people with a BS or BA.
>Until they can't find a job that pays off their student loans, at which point it's time to sneer at them for taking on risk they couldn't afford.
How could you even type this? Doctors will take on six digits of student debt because they know they'll be able to pay it off in 10 years and then be very comfortable thereafter. To get a BS around here, it'll cost you about $10k for the first two years in a community college, and about $20k to go to a CSU. $30k in debt can be retired by a teacher off their salary. If they somehow go to Harvard to become a K-12 teacher, then they sign up for one of dozens of debt-forgiveness programs and go work in the ghetto for a while and all their student debt gets bought off by the government.
>You do realize, right, that the reason why doctors salaries are so high is because only wealthy families can risk the six figure cost of a medical degree
No. Again, I don't think you comprehend how student loans work. If you're a poor kid, for one thing, you'll pay close to zero to actually go to college through your bachelor's, and then you'll take on student debt for medical school, which you can work off quickly. Anyone can get a medical degree regardless of financial status.
You're stuck in some sort of 1950s mindset of how education works. I suggest you educate yourself as to how college works these days.
>Uh huh. Found a reason yet for why countries that do far more "meddling" in health care or education than the United States cover all or most of their population for a fraction of the cost?
Are you confusing the tuition paid by students in these countries for the actual cost to educate them? Or the nominal tuition price at a US college with the average price paid? I suspect you are.