
Journal jawtheshark's Journal: Hookers 130
Have you ever gone to the hookers? Because, I'm seriously considering it. I know now that I'll never find free sex, so the only way to get some is to pay.
So what's best? A callgirl, or will a street hooker suffice? Pricing would be interesting too. I have absolutely no idea how much such entertainment would cost.
AC posting is accepted, for I can understand you want to keep anonymity.
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Get yourself some stylish "out on the town" clothes, a nice pair of shoes that match the outfit, a manicure, and an expensive haircut.
Go to a "meet market" type bar or any other place where there are a large number of women looking to meet men. If there really aren't such places in Lux go to the nearest big city that does have such places.
Basicly look like you have money and care about your appearance. Walk into the place acting like you own it. Women should be throwing themselves at your feet.
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I wanted info about hookers, not about how to get some free... because I don't get sex for free. You might, I don't...
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No one gets sex for free, male or female. It always costs you a certain amount of time and/or money. Considering time is money, you're always payi
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I find sex is pretty meaningless without some sort of relationship. Mind you this doesn't mean the relationship needs to be the sort of thing that leads to marrage, kids, and a house in the suburbs. But for me at least there needs to be something more than mutual physical attraction and sex.
For the same reason I've never felt "working girls" were worth the bother.
With relationships I find the journey itself is its own reward.
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Good advice.
I think JtS needs a relationship, not sex. However, what he needs to realize is that before a female can love him, he needs to love himself. SOMEHOW, we have to find a way to convince him he's a great guy and a worthwhile human being. I would have thought that the fact that everyone cares enough to respond to his JEs and talk to him when he's depressed would be proof, but I guess not.
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Look, TL... You as a pimp should understand one has to go for the least common denominator... Sex is that, paid sex even more.
Heck, no, you can't understand. Nobody with a healthy relationship or a decent sexlife can understand what I am in... As said many times before, I don't ask you to understand... At a certain point in life, you realise it is *over*, and need to pay for things that others get for free.
I have come at that point. You never will, an
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Lest you forget... I haven't been in a relationship that lasted more than a few dates since Psycho, and I've never had sex.
What I'm saying is, you are not going to be happy going to a prostitute, and that isn't going to help you get a girl. You need to figure out who you are and what makes you happy (besides girls) and do that. When you can be happy without a girl, you will get one. Bec
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What about the hot tub stories? They always imply you got some, perhaps not the full programme, but you certainly did get some "female contact". I do not even have that....
You need to figure out who you are and what makes you happy (besides girls) and do that.
I know who I am. I know what I am... I know what I like... Those questions do not need answers.
they can smell desperation.
As
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I did get female contact in the hot tub. But kissing was as far as the contact went most of the time, or maybe a back rub.
That tactic only works for pretty guys.
Dude, that's total crap. When I weighed 300 lbs, I still had girls all over me, because I acted like I was the most attractive guy in the world. In every picture I have f
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Please please.
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But back to the question at hand... if you ever visit, I'm sure I could find someone to go out with you. How old are you? Do you have a pic in the /. photo contest? What do you look for in a woman?
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Apart from that: consider the 650Euro to 900Euro (East coast, respectively west coast) I would have to pay for a plane ticket, with no guarantee whatsoever. Spending that much money will get me a nice escort aroun here I guess.
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My point is, you will never be happy with ANY woman, an escort, a Lux girl, or an American girl, until you are happy with yourself. Sex is not the answer.
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Try at least to understand my position. I have two choices: a) have a life without ever getting laid b) getting laid but having to pay for it.
Now what would you decide? (Again, *not* from *your* perspetive, try to be in my shoes just for this thought experiment) Think deeply, this is after all about one of our primal urges and is as important as getting food, sleep and drink.
Life isn't always
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Life is never easy. I never said it was. My life sucks sometimes. And yes, I get lonely and want to go out and have sex with some chick. All I'm saying is, you have a third choice: c) Pull yourself out of this funk, find a nice girl that makes you happy, marry her, and THEN enjoy sex the way it is supposed to be. But the first step is to pull yourself out of this attitude. No girl is going to want you if you are feeling sorry for yourself. If you go
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Well it's sad because I'm not going to visit the US in the near future, but I wanted to know if I can have any options.
But if you wondered... I'm 27, got no pic in the contest (yes I'm a paranoid) and.. I'm looking for a woman I can hug, draw with and discuss science fiction.. Do you know any? Maybe I can convince her to do Aliyah for me.
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c) is not an option. I'm too old to start over again. I have elaborated this before, but at my age there is no way in hell I can go the "normal way of life" (Meaning nice wife and getting kids or whatever "normal" is supposed to be these days) It is unrealistic
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TL: And yes, I get lonely and want to go out and have sex with some chick.
How is that not putting myself in your place? Dude, I'm in a similar place to you all the time. I'm constantly fighting urges, but I know that I'm not truly after sex, it's LOVE I want. I'm not telling you not to go to a hooker because I'm Christian. I'm telling you not to go to a hooker because I don't think that's going to make you happy. But if you h
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It wasn't an insult nor a compliment. I was just stating the fact that I had seen this comment coming from what I know about you. I also know that you don't shove your beliefs. Be glad you don't, because I'd take out the flamethrower at once.
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Honey, you are *so* wrong.
Ok, you know what I look like. I'm not stunning, but I'm damn cute, if I do say so myself. :)
Now, lemme tell ya about my boyfriend. He's bald (not by choice), kinda short, and pudgy. He's also the biggest dweeb I've met in my life. He studies statistics and Tensor Calculus for fun. I'm not kidding.
Not exactly someone you'd imme
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Well, I haven't met any in the 27 years I had on this planet.
It can take a really, really long time.
Uhm? Time is the only thing I do not have...
I know there's a culture difference here, but I would personally see any man relying on hookers or call girls as a HUGE RED FLAG
Oh, the culture difference isn't that big, not on this topic at least. The whole problem is that I dare to say this aloud. Have you seen the
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Secondly, if you're getting the "Nice guy, but I'd never date him" from the girls you're trying to meet, you're looking at the wrong girls. I'm serious. Every girl has a different line, and people who are dateable for one are not for the other. My sister ju
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You will soon. It is simple maths. Look at it this way: if I want the classical life of being daddy have a nice wife and some kids, my age is too high. Even *if* I would tomorrow find the "perfect match", nobody gets married right away. Usually there is some period that you get to know each other well enough. So add 5 years before marriage (27+5 = 33). Now, you won't start children right away. First secure the financial
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Ok, now you sound like you're having the Rachel-crisis (Friends reference for those who need it) I'm sorry, but you're being a bit ridiculous in your timing. Over on this side of the pond there are a boat load of people (many of them are my friends) who are getting married in their mid 30's and starting families.
For example, I, at 28, am also planning on having a family.
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Well, they are not here. Most (heck, all at my current project) of my coworkers are daddies (or working on it) and happily married. They actually do are in the 25 to 35 range. I have been told by a boss of mine (other project), who is 40 good looking, rich and drives a coupe like me that the dating scene is *dead* after you hit the 30. He actua
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I don't think your situation is all that unheard of however, certainly not in the Boston area.
Using a currency converter, that's $354K in USD. That wil
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We don't really have unsafe places, and commuting with the car gets impossible anyway. I just take the bus (meaning my 35000Euro car just sits in the garage all day), and it already takes an hour to get to the other side of twon (where I work). Comparing prices of Boston (which counts as a "big city") isn't really fair (and salaries are probably adapted). You should find a city with about a population on 80000 and they tell me what pric
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Hun, the statistics aren't valid 'cause your sample size is too small. This isn't learning from history, this is drawing a radical con
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Actually, I think I'm most frustrated because I was ready to pack it in 2 years ago. Any dry spell of more than a year (mine was 4) is terrible for your psyche. But the fact that a family is something that you WANT, but you're refusing to go out and get it is the part that really gets to me.
It's conveniently safe to chalk it
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My time is worth nothing, hence I really was talking about money. I was talking about "free as in no monetary cost".
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I can't...
Yes, it's a game
I don't play games anymore. I'm too old for that.
jawtheshark is a pretty cool guy.
No, he isn't... You only know me online (and then even barely). You wouldn't say that if you knew me for real.
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It's a learned skill
If you are having trouble picking it up there are places you can go to learn it. Acting lessons, sales semminars, etc. projecting a sense of self confidence is key to a lot of situations.
I don't play games anymore. I'm too old for that.
You never too old to play games, the real trick is knowing what game to play and when it is worth playing it. *Every* interaction with other people is a game of some form or another.
No, he isn't... You only know me online
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Strange that only Americans give that advice. I have some news for you: Europeans don't run to a psychologist when they feel bad. We deal...
It's a cultural difference...
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So, we care man, deal.
In my opinion you are far harder on yourself (at least here on Slashdot) than is healthy or normal. I have RL friends who have been helped with similar things via counseling and I suspect it might help in your case as well.
As someone who has suffered off and on with clinical depression I know that just "dealing with it" isn't always a valid or
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Doesn't sound like you're doing a very good job of that at present.
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No. You whine. You don't deal with it, you just bitch and moan without doing anything about it.
FWIW, no having been to a hooker myself, I would probably suggest that you get a room in a decent hotel and get a reasonably expensive hooker. Street girls are just interested in making a few dollars to get their next fix. High-priced hookers are more likely to be able to really satisfy your emotional as well as physical needs. A cheap hooker would be no
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Good... so quit reading. I don't force you to read this, nor do I force you to reply.
And I call getting a hooker "doing something". It involves action you know.
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jawtheshark is a pretty cool guy.
No, he isn't... You only know me online (and then even barely). You wouldn't say that if you knew me for real.
I just hope I know you for real enough to treasure your friendship as equally real.
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Many things have changed since University...
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Rediculous.
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I am not the hat-wearing weirdo I once was.... I am bitter, and sick of life... I am not the guy you used to know. I will fake him when you are near me, but I will never be again like I was back in the day.
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I don't think that's what friendship is about, faking..
Stop fooling yourself and get a grip.
Please.
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In the end you realise that you are there, and have not much choice... Actually, you have none... And you accept your fate.
You are not at that point yet, so I don't ask you to understand. I hope you will never be at that point, and ergo I hope you will never understand... I hope that for you... I really do.
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The point, my friend, is that I will never be at that point, because I fight for believing in and focussing on my strengths instead of my weaknesses.
I'm telling you this as a friend: You want to make me (as well as yourself and the rest of the crowd) believe that you've given up on that fight. Fine. I'm sure you'll be able to make me believe some day, it's not like that is hard, just throw your life away, and make choices that have the odds against them. Then what, Jorg.
It may sound harsh, but I have
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The odds *against*? Come one buddy, you know very well that I follow the road where the odds are best. What you suggest is living in a dream-world and hope for a very tiny chance. That is not realistic, but you cannot understand that as a dreamer.
Have you ever thought about seeking professional help ? Silly thought maybe, but nonetheless.
I will *never* do that... You hear that, so don't even suggest it, because I take that really badly from real f
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Because taking it further would not be smart.
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Well excuse me, sir! I didn't know that this was a stupidity contest. Then again, me and my dream world fantasy life...
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So, yes, I am stupid... That's not exactly news.
Yup, you live in a dream world. Greet the unicorns from me.
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Singles' Bar? Most cities have something like this.
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This is not a good idea. Hookers make a living by selling out their souls. I personally would not stand the thought of being involved in that process, as it is against everything believe in. Not that you would ever care about that of course.
Yes I do believe in the good of mankind, however naive I may sound. Yes I know that this world has problems. But if you don't start from the premise that dreams can come true if you work real hard, you deny yourself to see the real truth, which is that 4000 years o
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Trial and error my ass... I'm sick of error...
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You are the beholder. Only you can change your mind. I cannot do more than telling what I think and feel.
Point in case: If you think it is irrelevant and ineffective what someone might have to say about this, why do you put this issue up for comments in he first place?
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Hey, I never went to the prostitutes... I was just looking if some people had advice on the issue. Better start of with some knowlegde befor spoiling money for nothing.
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I must confess to being a bit shocked when reading the title of the journal entry. This is what happens from being away from Slashdot journalling during summer... sigh.
Really sorry to finally find out about your break-up
As to paying for sex.. personally I have nothing against it, but you might want to consider what future girlfriends will think about it (and you will get future dates, I'm su
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I'm good at shocking. Shocking is my second name ;-)
It must have been quite a deep relationship.
Apparently not since it's over... It was just my first girlfriend and at my age it was something like a last chance.
consider what future girlfriends will think about it
That does not concern me anymore. There won't be future girlfriends. I didn't manage to find one in 27 years, so I won't find one the next 27.
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Oh, I an grateful that some people try to understand me. Most of them are giving me shit that I should go and seek some help.
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But anyway I thhink women are attracted by slef confidence. As soon as you lose interest in finding a woman, they come at you- who knows why?
You were with that one chick for a while- did you notice indreased interest from women during that time period? Try to replicate whatever caused that.
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Drunk yourself? According to the mistakes you are...
I have nothing to offer except money. So hookers are the only way.
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I guess what I'm saying is, the more desperate you are to find a woman, the less likely it is to happen. But the moment I think "screw this, I'd rather be alone" is the moment I find a girl.
I can't say that I've ever gone to a prostitute, not that I disapprove or anything just never thought about it. But if you choose to go that route be careful, don't go cheap! VDs su
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Dream on...
VDs suck!
Not as much as not having sex.
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Don't know if this will help or not, but consider this. You've loved and lost. I've never loved at all. Yep, seriously, at age 35 I've not done the horizontal slamdance yet. And, in all honesty, I don't feel that I've missed out terribly.
Now, I'm no Quasimodo (check my entry in the Photo Contest for proof of that), and I dar
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Thanks.
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Of course, if any of the lay-dees here on
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And be goddanmed glad you haven't. Once, just once is enough to be hooked. You just want more and more. So imagine just having had it once... It is hell on earth.
(check my entry in the Photo Contest for proof of that)
Still don't know what you look like... Any guess is a good guess.
I might just have to catch the Eurostar out there to sort you out in person... :-)
You can get a mighty expensive hooker for that price ;-)
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Jorg, lighten up! You're making out that you having loved and lost = the End of the World. It isn't. My sister can attest to that, having been through several relationships that started out well but ended in disaster. But she's now a much stronger and more independent person (well, almost - she still needs the occasional reassurance over the phon
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WTF are you thinking? (Score:1)
Seriously, if you're going to this, then find someone, whom you trust, who has taken this route and get a reference.
Not sure your motivation, but please be smart and be safe.
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Never forget I am not American, and I will never act as one. That is what makes me jawtheshark on slashdot... Prostitutes are not bad, they provide a service just as the lady that does your laundry or cleans your house. It's a service... Some people need that service, some don't. You pay for service, that is how it works.
and be safe.
Of course... I'm not crazy...
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Jaw, I know that. I was qualifying my statement. Not judging you. Besides, it was my first (i.e. gut) reaction.
I don't judge people... well at least non-Christians.
You need not my blessing, nor my morals to live your life. I only ask that you be safe... since I like having you around in the virtual
Ok?
Ok.
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My voice is irrelevant in the blabbering of the world wide web. I'd rather not be here... I'd rather not have to endure life.
It is not me who says it best, but somebody else [pinkfloyd.co.uk]:
I have always been here
I have always looked out from behind the eyes
It feels like more than a lifetime
Feels like more than a lifetime
Sometimes I get tired of the waiting
Sometimes I get tired of being in here
Is this the way it has always
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I think a lot of people in America would take your post and think Holy Shiate this guy needs help... we need to help him. And that is the basis for a lot of the problems we face here: no one is allowed to feel differently than the next guy.
We have a lot of taboos, a lot of ways we're not supposed
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America isn't as open on sex as Europe. I don't want help... nobody can help. As a European I need to cope with it myself. We do not work that way... I am different, I am a strange guy, even at work the know I do not act as "the guy next door".
I wouldn't care where I could get nice girls... Relationships won't work for me anymore. Paying is the only thing that is left.
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As for "needing to copy with it myself" I don't think that's a requirement of European life. People talk to each other. They express frustrations and concerns, fears and hopes. They share secrets and jokes. For many this is therapy. It comes at the small cost of being a therapist for the friends who are therapists for you.
Those of us who do not have a pool of friends to talk with don't have that resource. We have t
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That's a very intense statement. There is a deep darkness that envelopes you. But that darkness is not natural. People normally have ups and downs. People become depressed. But there are limits to normal depression. With all the force I can muster in this emotionless medium, I urge you to speak to someone about this.
There are causes beyond our control and ability to manage that affect us. We are fragile creatures ("shadows and dust, Maximus") and we are not all-powerfu
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It is my favourite quote from that movie, because it is so true... We are just shadows and dust... and in slashdots case, we are just shadows... Not even dust.
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That is really different. I came to conclusions and made decisions for life.
on a flickering computer screen,
Get a frigging LCD... You need to "have eyes" after all, especially you. ;-)
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That is how I work... I don't ask you to understand.
do you have legal prositution in Lux?
No... I don't think it is legal.
Thanks for all the advice...
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Wow!
Give they time to be themselves, and take a little time to be yourslef.
Typos aside (and who am I to nag about typos anyway), this is the best advice for EVERY relationship. Take some time to BE YOURSELF, as much a 'being together'. In my relationships I allways met with women that wanted to completely change myself, and I can't say my mind didn't spin the thought around that 'someday she'll agree on this with me' too. I think it's natural for people to want to relate with somebody in a certain se
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