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Comment Re: Directionally Right, Specifically Wrong. (Score 1) 160

It didn't happen with a Flock camera millions of times.
But overwhelmingly (in the millions, right now, as a daily fact of life in pretty much every metropolitan district court), DAs clear cases via plea deal.

Only a very tiny percentage of indictments or arrests ever go to trial in front of a jury.
Only a very tiny percentage of indictments or arrests ever have their evidence examined in a courtroom.

Instead, DAs use the indictment/arrest/imprisonment as powerful leverage. For most of the accused, it is most rational to take a plea deal - regardless of innocence and even regardless of whether they might win at trial - rather than spend tens of thousands of dollars, deal with lost wages, lost jobs, and all the other things I listed previously, in the 1-3 years it will take for a jury trial.

The government has the benefit of overwhelming physical force, overwhelming bureaucratic force, and infinite deficit-spending funds. To paraphrase the quote about irrational exuberance in finance markets -- the DA can stay doggedly incorrect about your prosecution longer than you can stay solvent.

The statistical fact is, we have no idea - and never will have any idea - how many convicted people would have been found not guilty if they had been able to afford a trial. We do not in fact know what "normal" is with regard to people prosecuted incorrectly or unjustly. The choice architecture and pressure gradients of the system make such measurement impossible; the data is permanently lost the instant the plea deal is signed. And that happens in the millions of times.

Comment Re:Not Flock (Score 1) 124

But Flock (or other technology) is fuel or at least a catalyst to such "bad police".

It is a database. The police could have just as easily searched the DMV records for cars registered to owners in the area and picked a patsy to frame.

This story is all about bad policing and improper supervision by prosecutors/courts (even if the cops arrested her they could not have held her that long without the approval of the court.)

Flock is bad. Their entire business model of privatized surveillance should be outlawed -but it is not the problem in this case.

Comment Re:Something is not completely adding up (Score 1) 65

They were intentionally studying ways to weaponize the plague. Russia has extensive bioweapon labs.
(to be ready to defend against it when someone else released their weaponized version of the pneumonic plague.... purely defensive research, of course -pinky swear!)

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Comment Re:New Business/Health Plan (Score 1) 50

rich people are not psychopaths

Being a psychopath/sociopath is a key ingredient in getting rich. Generally some opportunity had to come along that required a disregard for the welfare or fairness to others. A lot of folks stepped away from an opportunity because they didn't think it was right, but a wealthy person likely seized upon some such occurances.

Comment Re:If an individual did any of this hacking by han (Score 1) 53

People have been kicking off interactions to complex to fully imagine all possible outcomes

That ain't the same thing.

This thing is doing things you didn't tell it to. It might even do things you explicitly told it to not do. It is not a case of "well, you could've forseen this as a consequence if you had been careful" like your campfire. My example is only a bit silly, it is absolutely possible that an AI agent will decide to hack NASA because you asked it for some data for a school project. Even in the broadest possible sense, that does not fall into stuff that the law so far has considered to be in the domain of negliegence.

AI agents do stuff you could not possibly have expected. Heck, I asked Claude a fairly simple knowledge question yesterday and it wanted to read from /dev/null. There is no argument you can make that would convince a jury that I should in any way have expected that and taken precautions. In a hypothetical world where a read from /dev/null randomly kills a puppy somewhere on the planet, I don't think I would've been convicted.

Comment Re: Directionally Right, Specifically Wrong. (Score 1) 160

Here is something else you may have not thought of. If you are arrested for anything even half serious, you get booked, fingerprinted and a mugshot taken. All are public record. In fact its a thing. I recall and probably still exists mugshots.com or something like that where you can pay to find people's mug shots. If you were applying for a job, would you really want to be explaining this, that is assuming you even get a chance to explain. Because in today's AI world, I expect AI would just cull your application for being arrested. Being arrested is just not a nothing burger. It has consequences.

Comment Re: Directionally Right, Specifically Wrong. (Score 1) 160

Yes.
This is one of those questions that seems philosophically interesting but is not interesting pragmatically.

When you jail someone, you have reason to believe they are proximate to what you believe is a crime. You remove their freedom to move/act temporarily while you ascertain the existence/severity of a crime, and if they are a party to that crime.

When you figure out that you made a mistake, you release them.

"...and then you give them a sizable bank deposit for all of their legal costs, not justice served the towing of their car, the income they were unable to earn while jailed, the job they quite likely got fired from due to missing work, the ruination of their reputation, the destruction of their family, the diseases/injuries that occur while they are in jail, the mental damages, the spoiled food in their fridge, the bills that go unpaid, the overdrawn checking account fees, the credit card APR that jumps to 29% due to a missed payment, and the plea deal they finally agree to - despite being innocent - because the DA uses the full force of government power to leverage all of the above, making it rational to take a plea rather than spend 2+ years fighting it with income you no longer have, right?

...RIGHT???"

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Your simplification of this scenario - which is playing out millions of times every week in the USA across thousands of criminal courts - as a simple mistake that can just be un-done, is one of those perspectives that "seems philosophically interesting but is not interesting pragmatically" because the system does not operate in that philosophically ideal way for anyone.

Comment Re: Directionally Right, Specifically Wrong. (Score 1) 160

What in the world are you talking about. You completely changed the subject. Suddenly we are talking about riots. Before you just stated a 10% false arrest is acceptable. It is most certainly not. This is a tech site. I'll throw some at you. Suppose you turn on your cell and 90% of the time you have signal. Good enough? Suppose you go home and 90% of the time the power is on. Good enough? Suppose now that you are home, you turn on your PC and the internet is up 90% of the time. Good enough? Suppose you get an update from microsoft and 90% of the time, it works. Ok well that is true...

In all those cases in a short while the service will be back up, 90% remember. You were only slightly inconvenienced and think of the money saved by not needing 7 9's reliability. No I maintain it would be pathetic performance by LEO if they were willy nilly arresting people hoping to bag the perp. I expect better, and frankly it can be very costly when people are falsely arrested. Civil lawsuits for that sort of thing happen.

Comment Re:Cost of SSD per GB (Score 2) 68

On a laptop? Unless you want the other drive trailing around by its USB cable that is not an option.

Keep in mind that Tightwad Tim [Cook] kept 256 GB storage the base spec for a long time. In fact the brand new M6 Mac mini Still Ships With 256 GB, as does the Neo.

One other note, multiple people reported that the actual AI storage is 25 to 30 GB.

Comment Re:The use of the service is radicalizing people (Score 1) 86

Are AI services inciting desperate acts?

Are cigarette manufacturing services inciting lung cancer?

One of my gripes with the AI industry is these chatbot models are designed around engagement. They prey on human behavior and the elderly, young, and those with mental health issues are especially vulnerable. I don't believe that the AI agent itself has any intent (it cannot) nor does the company that owns and trains the AI likely have any specific harmful intent to "incite" something beyond engagement and purchases.

One of my gripes with the cigarette industry is these smokable-paper-cylinder models are designed around engagement. They prey on human behavior and the elderly who grew up with smoking, the young who have weak critical thinking skills, and those with mental health issues (like compulsivity and anxiety) are especially vulnerable. I don't believe a Nicotine molecule itself has any intent (it cannot) nor does the company that owns and manufactures the smokable-paper-cylinder model likely have any specific harmful intent to "incite" major disease/death beyond engagement and purchases of cigarettes.

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