I wonder how the "I only work at home deals with say, the job I retired from. Oh - I traveled - by plane, across time zones, to places we had work, millions of miles not counting the commute. I traveled many hundreds of thousands of miles of driving.

Don't feel sorry for me though, the pay was very good, I could retire at 55 on 6 figures. But if you don't want to travel, then don't travel. You do you. The people I worked with that although they didn't WFH, in many cases refused to travel (they were a group that the institute tried to increase)

Was it worth it? Hell yeah. I enjoy traveling. I enjoy expense account living and per diem. But others have a different outlook. My father for instance, would be happy to never go further than the perimeter of our yard. OTOH, many people find commuting an excruciating experience and would be happiest id they lived their life at home.

If you don't want to do it - do not do it! I'm not claiming that you should. There are many different outlooks. You do you, I do me. I fully support your refusing to work at an office, only from your home. There are many paths, and the one I chose is just different, and one that causes a good deal of angst for some who have possibly as monolithic view of the workplace.

I prefer using Migration Assistant and Time Machine for new Macs.

Also, while impossible to eliminate Google from one's experience, you have to understand that all your data are belong to Google if you go Chromebook. I did have a Chromebook at one time, experimenting. It was smooth, and I didn't have to mess with it for updates. Hated the screen. Eventually I converted it to Linux.

So, my Windows machine can run my Mac only Software? I use a lot of Final Cut Pro Studio. And Adobe CS is definitely smoother on the Mac. Time Machine provides backup of everything, including programs, with hourly backups, multiple custom backups.

And the closest thing on Windows is disk imaging, which is remarkably deficient by comparison.

I have a Windows VM because there are a couple programs that are Windows only.

Perhaps your inexperience with MacOS, and your need to hate on it is based more on ignorance than anything else, because your statements aer easily proven wrong. Thanks for participating.

"We"?

You possibly mean "white" males - especially?

Until the collective "we" stops with the racism and sexism, it will merely be a pendulum of hypocrisy, with different groups assigned as the other, only changing as one or another group gains power. Sometimes openly racist, other times racist while claiming they are not.

It is hard to get away from - humans evolved in tribal fashion, with us, and the other, and characteristics based on trivial differences like melanin content of skin, and facial features can allow primitives an easy way to castigate the other.

And let's face it, while parading their mountain gawd around as the rationale, the underlying fact is this is a racist movement.

So you excuse overt racism. and hatred. Whataboutism at its finest! Tell the pe4son that hate and racism is okay.

And do you have the proof that the Hawaiians are truly the original humans on the Island, therefore can claim sovereignty?

Now this all smacks of the racist hate of so called "white people", so let's take a test.

My ancestors came to the USA from Eastern Europe, and Italy after WW1, fleeing from oppressive and dangerous governments.

Am I responsible for slavery in the USA based on the color of my skin?

And before you get spun up and want to call me racist because I stood up for teh evilz white people, make no mistake, Race is the ultimate social construct. Race does not exist until human speciation occurs. Humans of differing skin tones are no more races that white and black horses. Therefore it is specious.

All of which is to say, if you believe in race, you are by definition a racist.

Well, apparently he does not give a fsck, and we must remember that is the sort of intellect we're dealing with.

But seriously, apparently for some, an update that sends their computer into a reboot loop, or not boot at all, or kills bluetooth, or renames all the song drivers or just kill them, or moves programs into the cloud, or just the ones that are supposed to be on the computer or renames the local user to the to the Microsoft account, killing the programs associated with that, or a lot of others is simply the best, and all others are unworthy. These are verifiable facts If I spend an hour trying to fix a wrecked W11 machine, I could have bought 2 of them. I've noted my classes in here on W11 that every week, new update issues occurred, and were an utter waste. We moved to Linux, and suddenly everything worked. We even broke up early because we reached the end of the syllabus. Mac takes this even further. You can get Windows and Linux running natively on the Mac desktop. I’m doing this on a modest Mac mini M4 with 24GB RAM. Windows 11 and Debian better than my tower PC with Intel gen 14 i7 and 64GB RAM.

And it is magnificent! How a machine that runs the three major OS' is somehow deficient, is one of the mysteries . Maybe we have to swear at it more?

Oh - and my machine boots after updates.

You know what I do with people who bandy the word around like it enhances their argument?

Ignore them because that is their argument. Good work!

And the guilty liberals who will bend over backwards to appease them.

Oh gawd! I can imagine the awkwardness if your neighbors talk to their dogs like mine do. ...

"Venus! shut your mouth and get your sorry ass in here right now!" You neighbors should pay for her therapy!

I've been a professional since the 1970's, And despite your monolithic Viewpoint, I use all three OS' Professionally. I perhaps know a lot more than most people, but that's beside teh point, I do know ye know nought

If employees have been storing classified information in the cloud, it is as bad an idea doing it on any platform. It's a security breach, possibly dissemination, and is punishable by 20 years per infraction.

You have no idea what you are talking about. That didn't stop you though.

You are stating something from another place, I can do everything on My Mac that I can do on My Windows machines - I have programs that are Mac Only, I have a VM that allows me to do the couple of Windows only. Wh functional system do you have that is better?

Windows can't be it, W11 has a well established record that shows it is regressing, and Linux is a lot of fun, for many of my use cases, excellent, But the non-functional Mac is a meme for people who probably never used one. But if it helps you feel better in your corner garage, Ford vs Chevy argument, and to sleep at night, have at it. You can have your own opinion, not your own facts.

I have a Windows VM on My Mac mini, so I can run whatever I need. The exorbitant price? 500 dollars. And the M4 Chip is a lot faster than my recently bought Lenovo.

You really don't need to understand my enthusiasm. I use all three major OS', I can make my own decisions as to which one I use at any given time. Mostly MacOS, mainly because I like it best, the Linux machines because they are fun. and the nice shiny Windows machine so I keep current on the myriad of fixes needed that I might need to address.

But out of curiosity, you hate MacOS, UNIX based, while liking Linux, which is Unixy. Interesting. They are brothers, OS wise.

As I noted in a post above, I was not an IT guy, but I was assigned support for Macs at my institution. Almost no issues. And when there was, it was usually a drive going bad, maybe a broken mouse. UNIX FTW

Interesting, I was somehow assigned IT for our institutions Macs, several hundred of them. I got perhaps 2 calls a month, many months with no calls.

Meanwhile, Windows support had an entire division of support people who we busy 8 hours a day, even performing digital triage at times.

Now that's a comparison that's just a comparison, if you are correct about Chromebooks needing less IT than Macs, perhaps the IT departments could just disband. If a kid has a computer problem, just buy them a new one - cheaper than pay and benefits for IT peeps.

Exactly. In a student environment the devices need to be as close to identical as possible, Which BTW, in my recent classes, W11 machines supposedly on the same computers, are not the same.

Indeed: what does it matter if the kids are running google docs or Office-365 on a Macbook Neo?

I'd be surprised if the Macs do not allow local use. Of course, they could always use Apache Office, and trim some more costs.