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Journal benhocking's Journal: Yet another Republican homosexuality scandal 24

From the no-longer-news dept of the Wonkette:

As the nation slips into a new "Not So Great Depression," Republicans are embracing a new kind of Compassionate Conservatism that should appeal to poverty-stricken people who've lost their homes, jobs and traditional abhorrence of homosexuality and pedophilia. Leading the new effort is Wisconsin Republican leader and Brown County GOP Chairman Donald Fleischman, currently facing charges of child enticement, contributing to the delinquency of a child and exposing himself to a child -- all because he (allegedly) wanted to show his love to a runaway boy!

Of course, this one is much worse than the Larry Craig one as it involves a teenager and an abuse of Fleischman's authority. What I don't know yet is to what degree hypocrisy is involved. Was this guy a log-cabin Republican, or one of the typical self-loathing closeted Republicans who push anti-homosexual agendas in an effort to hide their own sexuality?

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Yet another Republican homosexuality scandal

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  • Was this guy a log-cabin Republican, or one of the typical self-loathing closeted Republicans who push anti-homosexual agendas in an effort to hide their own sexuality?

    I'm going for door #2 myself.
    • Define Pervert as a person who hides their own non-criminal sexuality, or who acts out sexuality in harmful (physical/emotional) ways to themselves or others. Mental/Emotional illness is expressed by suppressed or repressed non-harmful adult sexual desires/behaviors. IOW call a pervert a pervert ... some one of highly confused and potentially dangerous personality disorder. A pervert is not a homosexual; However, a heterosexual/homosexual can be a pervert when culturally/socially/personally... forced to sup
      • and I believe you do too, in a way.

        Lately, I seem to have fallen into a pattern that compels me to cleanly and properly identify the targets. Society, as a whole does not deserve the blame for creating environments where homosexuals believe they are forced to hide their sexual preferences. Conservatism does not deserve direct blame for it either, but it does have a bit of culpability, that flows from the ends-testing strategy of The Big Circus Tent of Inclusiveness, which allowed radical right-sided reli

        • "We" was meant as our culture, not any specific group/individual.

          It is the blight of the righteous always being wrong, believing they are doing gods will at the extremely ugly expense of others.

          More the pitiful are "we", when "we" are silent, while others shout words of wrong.

          The flaming Bush is a religious symbol, the blaming Bush is a lunatic with nuclear weapons. I believe any Bush can be a damn delusional dangerous thing.

          I agree, sexuality is not the problem, but mental and emotional repression a/o supp
  • but I'm not.

    Just look for the guys all worked up over gay marriage and homesexuality - those are most likely the closeted gays.

    Something about spite. They think that "if someone as pure as me can have such thoughts then those gays must be worse".

    What they don't get is we're straight. We don't get those thoughts. Only bisexual and gay guys have those thoughts.

    Sigh.

    And then they lie about it and talk about how "moral" they are, while they scr.w guys in the bathroom.
    • Although this story has the added bit of possible hypocrisy (again, I don't know the guy, but am basing my assumptions off party affiliation) with regards to drug use. Of course, most Americans, regardless of party affiliation would have a problem with an adult providing marijuana to a 16-year old boy—especially if he's not your son. (Actually, most Americans would have a problem with it regardless. Many Slashdotters wouldn't really have a problem with it until it crossed the line of messing with some
      • good point.

        but the key word there is American.

        it's less of a deal in Europe and Canada.
        • I think most Europeans or Canadians would have a problem with an adult plying their 16-year-old son (or daughter) with marijuana in an effort to score some sex.
          • I don't think it would be the marijuana they'd be upset about. It would be the adult trying to have sex with the kid.
            • At that point, whether or not it's statutory rape (16 is legal in many states), you've got regular rape if the kid is too stoned to give consent. I personally have no idea how marijuana affects one's ability to "consent", but of course the guy was also giving him alcohol.
              • Well, by all medical definitions, alcohol is a far more dangerous and altering drug than MJ is. Sadly, we fail to realize that.

                On a societal level, one could argue they be treated at par, given the "illicit" (and thus enticing) nature of MJ compared to alcohol, but for someone who is 16 in the US, they're both illegal.

                In France or most of Europe of course, this would not be the case per se, but alcohol given to minors below 16 by non-parents is more of an issue.
        • Have you seen the Official RNCC National Convention Logo for next years festivities in Minneapolis/St. Paul? I was able to obtain one, and for a limited time, am allowing it to be viewed [impietease.com] If viewing from a work environment that is extremely sensitive; it's probably best if you do not scroll down to view the last two graphics though. There is no nudity, but they could offend some, especially anyone who is terminally Republican.

          One of the reasons that GOP politicians can say the detainees are not being tort

          • Actually, my favorite bit was how Denali [gmc.com] was for dyslexics in denial.
            • That was done with the intent to place into a parody think-tank/policy org website I still have plans to initiate one of these days. The org's name is close to the same as at the bottom of the graphic, but currently I invented from the Latin, Annuocular, instead of Anno. Annuo is a surreptitious signal of support, often a nod, while ocular is of course, related to the eye; or a wink and a nod. Pretty lame, but it has gotten chuckles from persons who are very familiar with Latin.

              There was a fake SUV ad to

          • I was actually in the Minneapolis St Paul airport a couple of weekends ago.

            Mind you, I was running from my flight from DC to my flight to Seattle, so I didn't have time to ... visit.
            • I didn't bookmark it, but a week or so ago, I read a news article about the Twin Cities Airport having a few of their public restroom facilities upgraded by increasing the length of the stall wall down to almost floor level. One restroom was the one Craig was in. It also mentioned that the Airport was noted on a few internet sites as a good place to get anonymous gay sex, and that the restrooms slated for remodel were the locations given in many filed reports of solicitation.

              Craig deserved to get busted

    • Just look for the guys all worked up over gay marriage and homosexuality - those are most likely the closeted gays.

      Yeah, that's been in my head a lot lately as I listen to Michael Savage's radio show. Somebody who works themselves into such a froth about alternative lifestyles has gotta be bottoming for some dude.
      • Cap,

        In casre you didn't know, Michael Savage's real last name is Weiner, and he has a unique one of a kind Berkeley PhD in Nutritional Ethnomedicine. He was also once upon a time, someone who hung out on the fringe of The Beats, and knew Allen Ginsberg. Several years ago, someone went down to the Allen Ginsberg Collection at Stanford University. Lo and behold, they found and copied 2 letters from Weiner(Savage) to Ginsberg, from Weiner's days at the University of Hawaii, which was when he also spent t

  • I just published a small Congressional Records Archive having to do with H.R. 1592: Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act Of 2007. This Bill, which has yet to pass in the Senate, would expand the definition of hate crimes to include victims of violent crime, who were targeted because of Sexual Preferences or Gender Identity. It was opposed by the vast majority of Conservative Republicans. The main reason they gave for their opposition was that it violated The First Amendment's Religious Establi

    • Yeah, I understand your POV on hate-crime legislation in general. I'm somewhat ambivalent towards such laws as one one hand they seem to be criminalizing thoughts, but on the other hand they're protecting minority groups that have shown a need to be protected. Also, such crimes tend to do more harm than if they were not motivated by hate. (In addition to the murder/battery on one individual, they have a larger effect on the targeted group.) Still, I do understand that people who oppose such hate-crime legis
      • In my opinion (not original with me) I think it's preferable to rigorously enforce the laws we already have against crimes. I'm not a lawyer, but don't judges and juries have a degree of leeway in sentencing crimes? That is, under certain egregious and aggravating circumstances they may impose harsher sentences. Perhaps crimes meant to intimidate certain groups could be more harshly punished under the existing guidelines without the need for special hate crimes laws.

        If you have read some of my posts on /

        • What I'm talking about is cases where the speech itself is the offensive behavior. For example, the imam of a mosque who is preaching and calling for his followers to commit actual violent, terroristic actions. I wonder in such a case if the imam could be charged with some type of conspiracy charge?

          Most locales already have laws against incitement of violence. Some of those might be over-enforced (although I'm not aware of any such cases—probably due to my ignorance), but I do see the rationale behi

  • The New Orleans Times Picayune - October 04, 2007
    DiFatta twice detained for lewd conduct in mall restrooms [nola.com]
    By Christine Harvey

    St. Bernard Parish Councilman Joey DiFatta, who on Thursday withdrew from the 1st Senate District campaign, has been stopped twice since 1996 for suspicion of engaging in lewd behavior in public restrooms in Jefferson Parish, records obtained by The Times-Picayune show.

    DiFatta, 53, acknowledged that reports he had been stopped are true, but he denied any wrongdoing in both ca

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