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Comment Re:lol, what? (Score 1) 85

Maybe join the conversation some time instead of placing a completely irrelevant ad hominem attack by listing a handful of incidents about an agency that publishes literally hundreds of articles a week.

I understand why you post AC. Imagine all the stupid shit we would find going back through your posting history to use to discredit anything you say.

Comment Re: Social engineering. (Score 1) 85

f you don't believe in national borders, then you don't believe in Nations, which raises several questions including how do you feel large groups of people should govern themselves, and how does one interact with said government?

I didn't say there shouldn't be a government, I said there shouldn't be borders. Learn the difference retard.

Again why do you think those Western Countries are desirable? It's b/c of a history that includes the formation of nation-states with, wait for it ... borders!

Yes because that's why migrants come: "I want to go to a place with government" /s. You got so close you just missed a few words. In reality they want to go to a place with "a different government" which again the basis of the problem is the concept that piece of land A is governed differently from piece of land B.

Arbitrary nation-states created solely by the use force are the fundamental problem here, even by your own logic.

Comment Re:Social engineering. (Score 1) 85

You come in force and physically stop them

I'm going to assume you're not completely ignorant of the fact that the number of migrants that came in was *EQUAL TO THE POPULATION OF THE ENTIRE REGION*. So that means your "force" will either fail miserably, likely resulting in your own death or you have strong firepower and decided to massacre people.

Yes clearly you learned nothing from Gandhi.

Did you learn nothing from Merkel who got thousands of people killed with her come to Germany stunt in 2015?

Why's that matter? Your stupid idea just killed many more than those you proclaimed to care about. You really say some spectacularly stupid shit sometimes.

Comment Re:Social engineering. (Score 1) 85

I took nothing out of context. I was just pointing out that pictures mean little in general. The reality was that the border guards were in fact there. In full force and they did nothing because...

they were explicitly told not to use force.

Yeah, no shit. Welcome to my point. Which leads me to:

what outcome? any of what?

So your entire post argues nothing at all, because nothing changes. The Moroccans could have shouted from the hills that they were coming and ... there would still have been 60000 of them flooding in.

Comment Re:lol, what? (Score 2) 85

Sure, things are true because you say they are. Back in reality:
a) No they didn't,
b) This incident was spurred on by something completely unrelated to politicians (I know Americans no longer understand the concepts of separation of powers in government since they have a king now, but Spain is still a democracy).
c) Spain made it clear there's no path to the EU for said migrants and virtually all of them went back.

But congratulations, you're precisely that social media bullshit that this article is talking about. Don't you have an anti-vaxxer meeting to attend?

Comment Re: Social engineering. (Score 0) 85

What is wrong with being nationalistic?

You and I are not using the word nationalistic the same way. There's nothing wrong with looking out for yourself. There's everything wrong with doing it to the detriment of all connection elsewhere.

You want to promote local businesses, great. You want to promote local businesses but only if they are run by people with your skin colour or people who's grandparents were born there you can fuck all the way off.

The entire concept of national borders is stupid. It plays the human race against each other as a lottery of where you born, as if there isn't enough inequality in the world.

Sincerely: "an immigrant" (just one of those lucky enough to have a shade of skin colour to be welcomed in western countries).

and the states on the periphery are responsible for gaurding the external borders. Spain, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Greece etc all have huge border fences that put the old Iron Curtain to shame.

And congrats on emphasising my point. The Spanish external border wasn't breached. 0 people reached the EU Schengen zone, and yet Italy decided due to the risk of those immigrants they suspended the Schengen agreement with Spain. Let me repeat using different words. Brown people outside the EU moved to somewhere outside else still outside the EU, and Italy decided to close an internal EU border, all to rile up a racist base who also doesn't like brown people - With this context do you understand what "nationalistic" means?

Comment Re:Social engineering. (Score 0) 85

and approach the border without moroccan authorities noticing and at least warning their spanish counterparts

Question: Why would they care?
Followup question: What makes you think they didn't warn their Spanish counterparts?
Final bonus question: What makes you think any of that has any impact on the outcome?

If you want to take pictures out of context, there's plenty of pictures of what happened at the border: On the Spanish side all the border agents were there, standing there in full force unable to do anything. How many people do you think make up the border guard there, and what do you think they were going to do with an influx of 50000 people? Shoot them? Prevent people who just spent 5km swimming (some didn't make it and drowned) from coming out of the water? Did you learn nothing from Gandhi?

Literally no border in the world can cope with what happened here without the use of deadly force. I know some people think that's the answer but most of the west likes to think of themselves above that.

also note that the vast majority of migrants weren't moroccan, they came from far further south. so this could have been morocco just "offloading" a migration problem to spain

The same Morocco who took no action when some 95% of the migrants went back to Morocco 2 days later? I mean if that's true then Morocco's foreign policy could make even Trump's look good.

Your connection to Israel is also just irrelevant. Its widely reported not just though your social media "research" but with direct interviews that many of the migrants were there precisely for the reason listed in TFA. They were led to believe that Spain had no choice but to accept them, which was wrong. The fact that zionists influences are mocking Spain has nothing to do with the migration crisis and everything to do with the fact that zionists have attempted to mock any country for any reason when said country doesn't support them.

Comment Re:Free Money, Free Housing and a Free Miele (Score 1) 85

It's also probably worth mentioning that one of the prime causes of those places people are fleeing being so terrible, is western imperialism and exploitation.

Partially true. The other part is that it's a desert hellhole that's not a pleasant place to live and has through years bread a culture of tribalism in an attempt to survive.

Comment Re: Free Money, Free Housing and a Free Miele (Score 1) 85

I would argue Morocco is safer than many parts of the US and some parts of UK. Especially for foreigners, as much of the economy depends on tourism.

So your argument is that a place is safe for foreigners specifically and that's why the locals wouldn't feel safer in Europe? That's like saying you're an idiot because my lasagne tasted bad. The two are not related and one of them is wrong. And yeah I put the wrong cheese in my lasagne yesterday.

Comment Re:Free Money, Free Housing and a Free Miele (Score 3, Informative) 85

The only thing people get for "free" in Europe is the basic ability to not die in a ditch. There's a reason why everyone voluntarily works in Europe including those "freeloading immigrants".

Also no you don't get free housing either. It's temporary accommodation for the period of time where you are barred from working while your asylum claims are processed, and unlike the USA that process doesn't typically take years.

Please do some actual learning about what social security in Europe actually is rather than just squarking out Fox and Friends talking points. If I wanted to be with parrots I'd go to the zoo.

Comment Re:Social engineering. (Score 2) 85

Well yes the "invasion" was a result of the video. Also the invasion wasn't actually a problem. Most of the people went home voluntarily after they realised the videos led them there under false pretences. 50000 people crossed the border, only 5-7% are still there and are getting nowhere, and 0 ended up invading the EU free movement area.

So yeah the "invasion" itself isn't a problem at all.

Comment Re:Social engineering. (Score 0, Troll) 85

One video caused a political crisis in multiple countries including infighting between those countries.

No it didn't. It was at best a contributing factor. The actual infighting between countries is caused by multiple things including a rise in nationalism and racism along with a political system that rewards bullshit if that bullshit vilifies someone who your supporting base has been led to believe is the source of all evil.

You can look to the EU crisis talks shortly after this incident. The only people who "fought" were nationalistic arseholes hoping to win political points by spreading lies. E.g. Italy (and specifically their nationalist PM) blaming Spain for not protecting the border and suspending the Schengen agreement, despite Ceuta not being part of the Schengen zone and literally zero of these migrants being inside the EU Schengen border zone.

The video didn't cause this. Bullshit politics caused this. The video was just a catalyst to create disaster du jour.

Comment Re: Me Too? (Score 1) 59

They didn't force the app on to the iPhones. It had already been a standard feature for several years tracking iPads and Macs and sharing location with spouses before the tags were added to the ecosystem

Neither did Google. Pixel Tags work with Find Hub which itself is just a follow on from the Find My system that was integrated into Android over a decade ago.

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