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Comment Fired and blacklisted (Score 5, Interesting) 446

Let's run with your conclusion - average guy does this, loses their job.

Let's also add that average guy does this, is then blacklisted from ever having any job with a security clearance again.

Hell, I'd be more than happy to see Hillary Clinton avoid jail if she was disqualified from working in any position in the government that required a security clearance :)

Comment Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis... (Score 1) 392

So, you admit that the only countries that legally punish gays with death are those that ascribe to shariah?

To be sure, any country moving in the direction of killing gays, christian or muslim, is moving in the wrong direction. But while you may find some support for all kinds of violence in the bible, and in a homophobic black country you may find ruthless, yet illegal violence against gays, it's the quran and it's shariah law that has actually made such barbarism legal in many muslim countries.

In the end, we we decide which viruses to be concerned about, it matters if it's the common cold or ebola. One may, in rare instances, kill you. The other, only in rare instances will you survive.

Comment Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis... (Score 1) 392

How does that additional context materially affect their statement at all? If anything, they're claiming that it wasn't originally a hate symbol, but became one - which means anything, including the Star of David, could become a hate symbol if used in memes.

When the skinheads start making AmiMoJo memes, will your name become a hate symbol too?

Maybe if they had simply defined a subset of memes as hate symbols, rather than defaming poor Pepe, they'd be on firmer ground.

Comment Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis... (Score 1) 392

From their press release:

The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today identified “Pepe the Frog,” a cartoon character used by haters on social media to suggest racist, anti-Semitic or other bigoted notions, as a hate symbol.

Not sure how you assert they're not identifying it as a hate symbol, when they say they're identifying it as a hate symbol.

Comment Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis... (Score 1) 392

You make a compelling argument for religion - anyone who has spent time studying God more trusted than what "stands to reason" in your own judgement :)

Now, if it was simply saying "hey, some hate groups use pepe the frog, and some hate groups use swastikas!", that's one thing. But it strains even the most basic credulity to assign such a thing as "hate" to a mere symbol, stretching the claim further to "any use of pepe the frog or swastikas means you're a hate group!", which, whether ADL intends it or not, is their end effect.

To put it in the terms you used, it is irrational to give any sort of credibility to a group that proclaims words, shapes, or forms are so poisonous that the mere usage of them makes you hateful. There is incredible amount of context that is simply stripped out, that can have no rational justification.

tl;dr - just because a racist black gang uses the #13 as their symbol, doesn't make every use of the #13 a racist act. We can describe racists groups in detail without ascribing their motives to any and every use of a symbol.

Comment Re:Star of David used by Neo Nazis... (Score 1) 392

I was responding to your claim that the question was about "credibility", which is a premise I think requires proof - perhaps you didn't intend it, but your implication was that the ADL had credibility, and therefore was allowed the privileged position from which to condemn other people for language they don't like.

If your position is that the ADL has no more right than anyone else to declare words, shapes, or forms "hate symbols", then we agree. If your position is that they have the credibility to make such declarations, I challenge the premise by asserting that anyone making such declarations isn't credible.

Now, that does get into an interesting "is declaring something hate speech also hate speech which can be declared" infinite recursion, but I'd argue there is a qualitative difference between supporting censorship, and not supporting censorship. That is to say, I condemn them as stupid, which is different than them condemning others as hateful.


Scientists Study How Non-Scientists Deny Climate Change ( 664

A new research paper suggest climate change opponents are "simulating coherence by conspiracism". Slashdot reader Layzej says the paper "examines this behavior at the aggregate level, but gives many examples where contradictory ideas are held by the same individual, and sometimes are presented within a single publication." From the paper: Claims that the globe "is cooling" can coexist with claims that the "observed warming is natural" and that "the human influence does not matter because warming is good for us". Coherence between these mutually contradictory opinions can only be achieved at a highly abstract level, namely that "something must be wrong" with the scientific evidence in order to justify a political position against climate change mitigation...

In a nutshell, the opposition to greenhouse gas emission cuts is the unifying and coherent position underlying all manifestations of climate science denial... Climate science denial is therefore perhaps best understood as a rational activity that replaces a coherent body of science with an incoherent and conspiracist body of pseudo-science for political reasons and with considerable political coherence and effectiveness.

"I think that people who deny basic science will continue to do so, no matter how contradictory their arguments may be," says one of the paper's authors, who suggests that the media should be wary of self-contradicting positions.

Comment Re:Haha Akamai is Kapakai (Score 1) 208

Um, it's "kapakahi" in pidgin too. Not sure what school yard you were in when you heard "kapakahi", but if you missed the "h", it's your hearing that's off, or they had a speech impediment.

Your cite is from a haole :)

Try Peppo's:

Kapakahi; all mixed up."

But go ahead, tell me more about what a local boy you were, and how haoles taught you how to speak pidgin :)

Comment Re:Haha Akamai is Kapakai (Score 2) 208

It's "kapakahi".

vs. One-sided, crooked, lopsided, sideways; bent, askew; biased, partial to one side; to show favoritism. Lit., one side. Cf. lawe kapakahi. K kapakahi ka l ma Wai-anae (saying), the sun appears lopsided at Wai-anae [said by the goddess Hiiaka while her lover was dallying with someone else, hence said of any unlawful dallying].

"kapakai" is very different:

vs. To wait for. Rare.

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