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Comment Re: Who's money is being spent here? (Score 1) 68

The US lacks a real infrastructure to allay range fears

No what the US lacks is people who look into the current situation and instead repeat a trope that hasn't really been relevant for a long time. The great American roadtrip can very easily be done by EV at this point. Heck the first coast to coast coverage was provided by Tesla well over a decade ago and there are many orders of magnitude more charging options now than back then.

Unless you're taking a trip out to some true wilderness (as opposed to driving through on the highway) an EV is perfectly suitable even for long family vacations in the USA. But a lot of people seem to think they aren't.

Can do and convenient to do . Compared to Europe, the US infrastructure is pretty bad. Where I am, you have charging stations at each rest stop, for example. Friends have work parking with chargers as well. Yes, the US has. a lot of chargers, but how many are right off an interstate vs having to drive somewhere to find one? Friends who have EVs have two basic complaints: chargers are not near interstates and when you get there sometimes don't work or have a car using it as parking after a charge. The other is lack of charging at hotels, etc. so they have to find a charger where tehy are staying rather than be able to charge at the hotel. I understand hotel's lack of chargers, one I worked with looked into it but the upfront costs were prohibitive for 1, let alone two or three so they would never recoup the costs, plus give up valuable customer parking.

Walmart's partnership with Murphy USA and teh plans to add chargers can go a long way to fixing the first issue, given Walmart's presence in the US and having some locations near interstates as well as in more rural areas. The second is a tougher sell. Faster charging is helping as well

In the end, consumer perception is what drives the slow adoption, as well some real challenges and in some cases, the higher price for an EV version of a similar vehicle.

Comment Re:Still ignoring that elephant (Score 1) 56

Now imagine instead of factory workers, the machines randomly ripped arms off of people who had no association with the factory.

I don't suggest holding the AI responsible, I suggest holding it's USER responsible, just like the driver is held responsible if they fail to keep their car under control and plow into pedestrians.

Comment Re: Renamed already (Score 1) 47

Since the Wealth of Nations is the cornerstone of Capitalism, I would expect people cheerleading for it to read it. Smith is not god and economics shouldn't be a religion, but The Wealth of Nations is key to understanding how it can work for the benefit of all. His warning about corporate charters was in part inspired by his observation that corporations know nothing of compassion. I'm quite certain that by exceedingly sparingly, he did NOT mean to anyone who fills out a form and pays $150.

Competition also meant more than having 2 or 3 sellers to choose from. He envisioned many sellers and many buyers who were not that far apart in economic power (not his exact words but the jist is within a couple orders of magnitude). I have often observed that the modern economy shows inadequate competition in most if not all markets. Given adequate competition, "value pricing" would be practically impossible.

Comment Re:Still ignoring that elephant (Score 1) 56

Agent mode is also where the AI decides that committing a felony is an acceptable risk (even if it isn't). Ask an AI based robot (I know, not yet available) to go buy an ice cream at the truck and it decides the kids surrounding it are an impediment to it's mission and shoves them into traffic.

It might change people's minds if they are made strictly responsible for any crimes committed by the AI.

More real life, an AI decides the production database needs to be deleted even though told not to touch production. AI later matter of factly states it ignored that instruction and the database can't be recovered.

Comment Re:Still ignoring that elephant (Score 1) 56

It's more like unpredictable software. I'm not saying we burn it, I'm saying don't give it agency. Only allow it to advise, not take action. I have experimentally used it myself on code, but did not allow it to commit to the repo, only show me it's proposed changes. It even proved somewhat useful at that, though I didn't apply it's changes, it did inspire a similar approach that I implemented and committed.

Comment Re: Who's money is being spent here? (Score 1) 68

"especially since probably 90% of teh daily driving is less than 50 miles" These kind of claims appear over and over ("average commute of 38 miles" is another. EV advocates making the statements do themselves a disservice. What happens with human lossy-compression cognition is that a technically correct statement becomes "EVs can go only 50 (or 38) miles". There's also an arrogance factor where it looks like the EV advocates in their ivory tower are telling you what's good enough for you.

Certainly. It's a problem of cognitive dissonance, where new information disagrees with your preconceived ideas.

Comment Re: Renamed already (Score 1) 47

A key to Capitalism from Smith himself is that it requires strong regulation to keep the playing field level. Smith also warned that charters must be given out exceedingly sparingly and the resulting corporation kept on a tight leash and held strictly to it's charter.

I guess we really blew that one!

But I rather doubt anyone involved in MAGA or others shouting "deregulate all the things!" have ever read "The Wealth of Nations". Most probably can't do it since centuries later the text is quite stilted.

Comment Re:Still ignoring that elephant (Score 1) 56

There is no implied malice, that would require understanding what right and wrong are. It doesn't. The training so far for the various AIs seems to be whatever we can grab from the internet or scan from whatever books we can get our hands on.

Are you claiming LLMs are written to create fake social media accounts and launch a smear campaign against a project maintainer who refuses to apply the AI's PR? Because that actually happened. It was prompted to make a few requested changes to a program and get a PR accepted with those changes. And that's what the bot did, BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

Put another way, would you run a makefile containing several billion rules that you are not allowed to examine first? Because that's what giving agency to LLMs is. Or might you prefer a debug mode where it shows what actions would be taken, but cannot take them? That is what I mean by not giving it agency.

Comment Re: Who's money is being spent here? (Score 1) 68

The only people who care about EV range are people who've never driven an EV. The rest of us just drive them and pull into a fast charger and get a coffee if need be. I've done this 3 times in the 3 years I've had my Chinese EV, and my car has about 1/3rd of the range of a modern latest gen EV with their massive batteries. This is a classic case of people demanding a spec that works against them. All you achieve with this is a more expensive car for a feature you'll almost never use.

That depends on the US case. In Europe, there are often charging stations at rest stops along highways, so you can recharge and get a snack or meal; and driving distances are often shorter on trips. The US lacks a real infrastructure to allay range fears and vacation driving is often a longer average distance than in the EU. While I agree the range concerns are overblown, especially since probably 90% of teh daily driving is less than 50 miles, range and charging is not an issue; but th perception it is limits adoption.

No one said it did. That said there's nothing low quality about Chinese EVs. It's every bit the normal car with the excellent finish I expect from any other car company.

Haven ridden in one I agree, and given the vehicle's cost it is quite impressive; the Chinese seems to avoid teh Korean/Japanese market entry of build tehm cheap/sell them cheap and once we get a foothold move upmarket in quality and price.

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