And I'm guessing you still did not spring for the iPad Pro.

If only they didn't keep sending away people who weren't gang members based on false accusations and thinly veiled racism.

The problem is that an iPad Pro is mostly only useful as a portable streaming device, but costs as much as a laptop ($1300). Meanwhile, you can get an Android tablet of similar size for under $200, which is about what one would reasonably expect to pay for a portable streaming device that is going to get mistreated by your kids and eventually broken.

The product just doesn't make sense at its price point.

More the point, when it came time to find a tablet for use on my electronic organ, the iPad Pro wasn't even a serious consideration. To use it for that would have been a minimum of $1300 for one, and would have likely meant wanting to have two side by side, for a whopping $2600, and trying to figure out a way to control them both simultaneously would have also been infeasible.

Instead, I bought an Android tablet for $450 that is big enough to show two pages at once, controlled by BTLE buttons in the piston bar and USB foot switches mounted for easy knee control. The extent to which Android works better than iPad for that purpose was jaw-dropping.

And if and when I decide that I need a more portable tablet for reading sheet music and my choice is between a $1300 iPad Pro and a $199 13-inch Android tablet from Walmart, you can safely assume I will buy the latter as well. Why? Because it's a single-purpose device, and an iPad provides no obvious second purpose that isn't already fulfilled WAY better by my laptop. I can run 100% of the software that I need to run on my laptop. I can run 5% of the software that I need to run on an iPad.

The iPad Pro, as currently designed, is a waste of money for most users, and cannot fill any large enough niche for a majority of users to justify its price point, with the possible exception of people who use a computer only for browsing the web. And truthfully, most of them don't want to pay the price of a good laptop for something that's only a half-a**ed toy by comparison, but at least they *could*.

Yeah, Apple missed the mark. Very badly. And we've been saying it for more than a decade.

At this point, it should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that they should have made limited use of all Mac apps possible on iPadOS, and also made it easy to write apps that mix UIKit and AppKit views arbitrarily, so that Mac apps can be converted to UIKit a piece at a time, adding gesture-based controls and floating button palettes and other approaches for making the app usable on iPadOS without a mouse, while still using the rendering code for their complex views and stuff, rather than forcing app developers to completely rewrite their user interfaces from scratch for iOS.

And at this point, it should be obvious to anyone with the slightest clue that not having support for 100% of Mac apps makes iPad Pro unusable as a laptop replacement for a majority of users. The folks who could switch mostly already have, but the problem is that the vast majority of users have a few apps that they run that don't work on iOS, and they are *different* apps, so you can't even point at a few dozen or even a few hundred apps and apply pressure on them to convert their apps and make major headway.

Open up iPad Pro or delete one digit from the price point. Those are the only two options that would make it a real contender in the market, IMO.

We do look elsewhere. There's just not anything else on the market that has any real potential, either.

iPad could have been the laptop killer. Instead, the iPad peaked back in 2013, and sales have been pretty steadily declining since then. The problem is in part that the only thing they are really good at is media consumption, and once people buy one, they don't ever need to replace it, because the new ones aren't meaningfully better for that purpose.

And when they do replace them, they often end up buying some cheap Android tablet to replace them, because the iPad isn't meaningfully better for that purpose than Android tablets costing a fraction as much.

For me, my tablet never really leaves the house. But I use it in many rooms. I look up and follow recipes when making meals in the kitchen. I play podcasts and YouTube videos when doing the dishes in the kitchen. I watch videos in bed. Can I use a phone? Yes. The tablet has a larger screen.

This is what a tablet is. Bigger than a phone but not quite a laptop or desktop. There are use cases for this. In my house they are basically portable streaming devices. Someone is watching their show on the living room TV, grab the iPad/tablet and watch your show in your room.

Profitable? This could be expensive for Apple. Apple has given iPhone a sock. iPhone is FREEEEEEEEEEE!

So the service worker installs the entire Grab site to you phone? Grab handles food delivery, grocery delivery, package delivery, ride sharing, financial services, etc.. That seem extremely inefficient to load every single function to your phone just because you visited their website. Also I would imagine that working for Grab requires different functions than consumers. But according to you, every time someone visits Grab, it should install all these functions to your browser. I doubt it.

Maybe you should research that before suggesting a solution that has been available for 12 years but not used. But let's step back. If you look at all the companies in the US that do food delivery like Grab: Doordash, Uber Eats, Instacart, Favor, Grubhub, Postmates, etc. They ALL use native apps. All of them. Maybe you should ask these companies why they don't use PWAs.

You suggested a solution that Grab, Doordash, Uber Eats, Instacart, Favor, Grubhub, Postmates, etc. do not use. I pointed out maybe these companies know way more about their needs and solutions than you. Do you accept that?

Woke AI education is now a thing :o

Look, I am a firm believer that the UK's computer teaching has been crap and this is extra crap, but what the fuck. Woke? What the fuck are you even talking about.

AOL is still a zombie crawling around on the Internet. Facebook soon to join the zombie apocalypse I hope. Another aspect of the dead Internet theory.

Do you?

Why not buy a fair phone then which is thicker and has a removable battery.

Yes, I like this too.

"it has struggled to crack the consumer market" - No kidding? Perhaps it's the fact that Microsoft views its consumers as money bags to be squeezed. Or perhaps the anti-consumer bullshit baked into Windows. Resorting to astroturfing to push useless crap is right up Microsoft's alley. People caught on years ago that Microsoft offerings generally suck. I'm skeptical that 150 million use this crap monthly. Probably due to default installs and what-not.

1) You do know the M series chips offer the best performance per watt right now compared to Intel and AMD. 2) Saving costs means little if your hardware accomplishes zero goals. Grab develops iOS apps on these machines; what "real data platform" do you recommend to replace Macs?