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Comment Re: Addictive Design is just Good Design (Score 1) 46

So in the end, while smoking tobacco isn't a good habit, and chewing it is disgusting, as long as a person doesn't do it around others who object, I'm cool with it.

Every time I have someone else's tobacco smoke come into my car in traffic I wanna puke. I don't get a chance to object to their face. If smoking is so fucking great, why don't they roll the windows up?

Vomiting from the smell of smoke is not a normal reaction, Do all forms of smoke get this response? All smoke is at some level carcinogenic, and it is really difficult to avoid.

Comment Re:Highest privacy standards? (Score 1) 46

The privacy standards: The website only gets to know 1 bit of information (whether your age is above a threshold), the government does not get to know which website you consult, multiple verifier services can be used (you can choose one you trust); the protocol was designed openly; the app is open source.

You can check: * Technical Annex B on Zero-Knowledge Proof and the rationale for Elliptic Curve... (ECDSA) https://ageverification.dev/av... * The paper on "Anonymous credentials for the ECDSA" https://lists.w3.org/Archives/... (click on the pdf) * Openly requested and provided feedback from cryptographers on the proposed protocol https://github.com/eu-digital-...

Is the code open source and inspectable? If not, you are trusting the people who developed the code.

Comment Re: Addictive Design is just Good Design (Score 1) 46

We regulate certain things more or less out of existence because they're dangerous. Certain types of products which people can't or won't make themselves can be prohibited from sale, for example. I generally am in favor of legalizing things and enforcing laws against fraud, so that people get honest information about consequences, but I also like for people to be protected from other people.

Tobacco products are my favorite example because they affect people who aren't even using them. We allow them to persist only because of a profitable and highly taxable industry, not because of any notions about freedom. Freedom would be to permit you to grow your own instead of enabling the cancer stick industry, and let all the smokers move to farms in the south.

And people are doing just that - growing their own tobacco, and rolling cigars out of the results.

This is not in contradiction to what you wrote, just a question of how far we go to protect people. Somehow I ended up in a Youtube rabbit hole for a while of people growing tobacco and rolling cigars. I haven't smoked for 50 years, but it was interesting. Fun fact - it takes two different types of leaves, one for the wrap and one for the filler. And Tobacco is actually an attractive ornamental plant as well.

But where we stop protecting others makes for an interesting discussion. And another rabbit hole. Do we want people to be protected from other people? How do we address the heterocyclic amines and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons created when we barbecue meat, or smoke foods? If we ever give another person any of those products, they are ingesting carcinogens that we intentionally created.

Cured meat like bacon Nitrate - Cancer risk, Problem is, most nitrate exposure in humans is from vegetables. Uncured bacon? A lie, because it uses celery juice, which is high in nitrates, which cures the meat.

In the end, I can't resolve the issues completely, because it is a spectrum. And even becoming a raw food vegan doesn't eliminate the risk of ingesting things that can eventually cause a life ending illness.

So in the end, while smoking tobacco isn't a good habit, and chewing it is disgusting, as long as a person doesn't do it around others who object, I'm cool with it. And we'll never eliminate it anyhow.

Comment Re: Addictive Design is just Good Design (Score 1) 46

Addictive products are just good products! Have a cigar.

If you're an adult who understands the risks and still wants a cigar, why not? I've never understood this obsession some people have with forcing others to be virtuous in spite of themselves. If your religion and/or personal code of beliefs says you can't partake in $VICE, that's entirely on you.

What Is worse, the puritans end up actually creating more issues as pushback happens. I started smoking at 13 because I was rebelling against those who would determine what I was allowed to do. Fortunately, I stopped when I was 19 because it is stupid. But I see people today lighting up, and if you talk to the a little while, they universally don't like people telling them what they are allowed to do as long as they aren't harming anyone else.

Comment Re:Wuhoo! Problem solved! (Score 1) 46

The EU is not trying to parent your kids. It's trying to regulate product safety, which governments have been doing for ages.

I get some of it, but the EU is now going to control scrolling? I mean what is that. Are people hurt by scrolling? What is the amount of scrolling that people must be protected from? none at all? Just open the app and see one thing? Would a limit of one result be. the allowable schooling in web searches now?

Please! Protect everyone from scrolling - people are dying from the uncontrolled and life ending scrolling..... Won't somebody think of something something?

Comment Re:Yo dawg, I heard you like automation. (Score 1) 55

It is called Model Collapse, and avoiding it is a hot research topic.

What impresses me the most is that anyone would not understand what happens when AI starts referencing itself, because ot itself and other AI swamping everything else out. At that point, it becomes truth irrelevant and either worthless or a sort of religion.

Comment Re:If you're doing something like that once a week (Score 1) 68

You came to right place! Bull rsilvergun (or I believe he transitioned to a cow instead) produces tons of manure everyday with the tons of Singapore pagpag he eats everyday. The manure might be contaminated with menstrual cup plastic but hey, we all have a spoon of plastic in our brains anyway he says...

This raises an interesting question, when a bull like rsilvergun transition, does its manure become female manure or should we still be allowed to call "bull manure"?

Well done!

Comment Re:Oboyoboyoboy! (Score 1) 28

My cochlear implant - Spectra 22 from the mid-90s - has a 2.5mm input jack so I can connect a microphone and isolate the sound source. If we're in a restaurant, or driving, for example, my wife will wear it under chin so I pick up her voice almost exclusively. If we're in a crowd, and moving about, it's not as convenient, so I'm at the mercy of a flood of noise.

Did not know they had a mic jack. That's a nice addition.

Comment Re:Self-selection (Score 1) 68

It's interesting that although the article avoids stating causation, it does use the word "help," which is also an extremely strong statement when the data only shows correlation. Social-economic level, especially relating to income and assets should be the very first obvious factor analyzed.

Especially when people look at everything from socioeconomic level.

There's a reason that rich people support and participate in the arts more than poor people. Rich people have the spare time, spare money, and often less stress (economic, health, etc.).

Definitely will have more spare money.

But do you believe that the wealthy are indolent or something? Many of my peers are in the millionaire class, and they work hard and long. And more than a few are highly stressed.

For example, some high schools require a lot of money (up to $5000 for one school in our area) per season to participating in marching band, and that doesn't even include buying the expensive instrument.

It is fortunate that there are many other forms of art, some that require little more than a sketchpad and pencils. I know what you are talking about a little, as my parents would not get me an instrument when I wanted to join the school band. So I got a part time job after school, saved my money, bought a Fender Bass and amp, and was making around 100 dollars a week in 1970. Not too bad for a 10th grader.

Art is creating things, not spending money. You can pick an art form that requires money, but it is not mandatory. You can even just buy a knife and carve found wood.

Poor people have to work more hours for lower pay.

You're talking to a guy who regularly worked 60 hours a week, and more than a few occasions 100 hours.

When they do have spare time, simply destressing is more important than indulgence in the arts.

Oh man! My art is my de-stressing. Wonder what the difference is? How does someone de-stress when they cannot even make sketches, maybe sing, or do anything?

Slashdot has a lot of tech people in here. I wonder if they actually understand art?

Comment Re:Another study confirming the rich live longer.. (Score 1) 68

From a government examination

https://www.arts.gov/executive...

"As has been true historically, education and income are strong predictors of arts participation. In every cohort, in every art form, those with more education and higher incomes participate at higher rates than those with less. "

Here are some demographics for Classical Music concern attendees (they skew wealthier and more highly educated):

https://gitnux.org/classical-m...

On pop music, it doesn't take a genius to figure out the poor aren't spending $1,000+ a pop for Taylor Swift concerts.

Maybe you could isolate income as a variable, but it doesn't appear the original study attempted to do that.

It is very interesting read - I go to take a number of things out of it, thanks again.

FTS :

37% of classical music listeners in the UK are aged 16-34, debunking the "graying audience" myth

I'm not certain how that jibes with the common meme that Boomers sucked up all the money, and GenZ people are poor.

One-third of classical music fans live in households earning over $100,000 annually

Which is another way of saying two-thirds are living in households making under $100,000 annually

From the other report, I was gobsmacked when they wrote:

Proportionately fewer baby boomers have advanced into top professional and high-salaried positions, despite their advanced degrees.

Wait... what? the boomers, who are claimed to hoard all their money to themselves, won't retire because they refuse to give up their big money, and aer generally the cause of every problem on earth is that? I've been told by millennial and Genders that they can hardly wait for us to die so they stand a chance of fixing everything. I mean, we are hated. That's a shock.

What I am seeing, from the scope of those two reports/studies is that there are wide demographics interested in the Arts, and I have no doubt that interest in the arts is an enhancement to life. I do not see that the poor are excluded. I do not see that the poor have zero time to appreciate art. But that's just me.

Comment Re:Another study confirming the rich live longer.. (Score 1) 68

From a government examination

https://www.arts.gov/executive...

"As has been true historically, education and income are strong predictors of arts participation. In every cohort, in every art form, those with more education and higher incomes participate at higher rates than those with less. "

Here are some demographics for Classical Music concern attendees (they skew wealthier and more highly educated):

https://gitnux.org/classical-m...

On pop music, it doesn't take a genius to figure out the poor aren't spending $1,000+ a pop for Taylor Swift concerts.

Maybe you could isolate income as a variable, but it doesn't appear the original study attempted to do that.

Thanks - reading them now.

Comment Re:Wow. People who don't have to work live longer. (Score 1) 68

You obviously don't understand the actual post being made. The more difficult life is to do things like paying your bills, working multiple jobs, and things of that sort, the more stress people will have, which shortens their lives. On the flip side, those who have more leisure time and carry less stress will live longer.

You are invoking a meme. I do have an art minor, so I've seen a lot of artists and people who are interested in art. There are many artists who remain poor to work their craft. They are not stressed about that - it is their choice.

There are wealthy people who are not interested in Art. As well, more than a few who are both artists and wealthy

But can you address how a poor person is kept from accessing art on the internet? Even places like Facebook have a lot of art on them. Not many people are bereft of a smartphone or computer.

I've been very poor, yet always been interested in art. I work many hours a week now (although slowed a bit since retirement) , more hours than when I was poor. I have money. I really think a person is interested in art or they are not. Making it into a class warfare issue is specious as far as I'm concerned.

But this is Slashdot, where virtue is inversely proportional to wealth. 8^)

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