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Comment Re:AI doesn't use desktop hardware including RAM (Score 1) 110

Chinese manufacturers are ramping up output faster than that.

This isn't the first example of DRAM price collusion either. Happened around 2000 as well, and lawsuits alleging it is happening now have already started.

It's possible. My prediction is that they're not going to find any evidence of collusion, that all of the DRAM manufacturers simultaneously shifted production to AI chips in response to clear market demand, not because of any agreement.

Yes, there was collusive price fixing 25 years ago, but the companies got slapped pretty hard for it -- not just cash fines but prison sentences for executives. I think that prior experience makes it less likely that they're colluding now, not more likely. Once burned twice shy.

Comment Re:Anyone surprised? (Score 2) 210

Twitter was going downhill long before Musk was sort of forced to buy it to stop even more discovery during the trial. Now it's just a hellhole.

One correction: It didn't have anything to do with discovery. Discovery was complete when the judge put the trial on hold to allow the deal to close. What happened was that Musk realized that proceeding with the trial was dumb because he was going to lose and be forced to complete the transaction regardless, and possibly on worse terms than he could get by just doing it. Avoiding the public spectacle of the trial was also a consideration, I'm sure, but not discovery... 10 days before trial discovery is already done.

Comment Re:Once you pay the Dane-geld (Score 1) 120

We've known for centuries that appeasement doesn't work.

That's too strong. Appeasement does work sometimes... when it works we usually call it "compromise" or something similar, though. There's a book "Appeasement in International Politics" that examines a large number of cases where it worked and where it didn't. The author lays out a number of criteria that influence whether it works.:

1. When the opponents aims are limited and grievance-based.
2. When the concession addresses the grievance
3. When the conceding party is strong, so the concession is a choice
4. When concessions are reciprocal and limited.

That said, Trump's aims are never limited. That has become clear. It wasn't necessarily obvious that was the case early on, though.

We already knew when we tried it with Hitler that it didn't work. In 1939, there were already poems about how it doesn't work. But sure. This time was gonna be different. Did it pan out that way?

Maybe? There are some pretty good arguments that it did pan out in 1939. It didn't prevent the war, but it gave the British time to build out radar coverage and ramp up production of hurricanes and spitfires. Britain may actually have been better off going to war in 1940 than they would have in 1939, so appeasement may well have provided a useful delay.

Comment Re:user consent (Score 2) 85

You have misunderstood the purpose of advertising. It is not to sell you things you want to buy, it is to sell you things they want to sell. A very fundamental difference.

It's both. Advertisers very much want to advertise things you want to buy, to either trigger a purchase that you were holding off on and might forget about or (more often) to direct a purchase to a specific product or brand, rather than a competitor's. Advertisers also want to push purchase ideas to you, to tell you about things you might want to buy that you didn't know about, or often just to build brand awareness or brand vibes so that if at sometime in the future you're interested in something, you'll pick theirs.

Advertisers really don't want to pay money to show you ads for stuff that you simply won't ever buy. That's a waste. And the ad algorithms often screw it up and deliver wasted ads. That lowers the value to advertisers, making them willing to pay less per ad, which lowers the value to ad distributors. They'd very much like their ads to be better.

Larry Page used to say that the project of building good advertising wasn't done until every ad resulted in a purchase. That would actually be a kind of ad nirvana for advertisers, who would be willing to pay a lot for a guaranteed sale, ad networks, who could charge a lot for an ad, and even consumers, who would never see any ads except for things they wanted to buy (even if they didn't know they wanted the thing until they saw the ad -- indeed those would be the most valuable ads, since they would convert a guaranteed non-purchase to a guaranteed purchase).

(Larry's comment ignored brand awareness advertising, obviously).

The status quo is obviously very far from that situation.

Comment Re:Thanks, AI bubble! (Score 1) 110

Shutter? You think they're going to spend $500B on fabs and then just shut them down? Their boards would be eviscerated. As for "repurpose", sure, they'll manufacture whatever will generate the most profit, but with a fab capacity glut that will definitely include RAM.

Comment Re:Thanks, AI bubble! (Score 1) 110

At best, supply will return to pre-AI levels

No, supply will increase. What you're not considering is that the manufacturers are building fab capacity like crazy right now. When all of that capacity hits (in 3-4 years), prices will crater. We've been through this whole cycle many times.

I remember the first big one, driven by the launch of Windows 95. MS-DOS could use memory above the 640K mark only with significant pain and complexity, but Win95 could address it directly and really liked having an insane amount of RAM... like 16 MB!!. Freakin' hog. My NeXTstation only had 8 MB and it blew those dumb PCs out of the water... anyway, I digress. RAM prices spiked, but within about 18 months (fabs were simpler back then) they went through the floor.

Comment Re:AI doesn't use desktop hardware including RAM (Score 5, Informative) 110

People keep assuming the AI funnel is taking all their ram when the sad fact is that memory manufacturers simply stopped making desktop memory to use the raw materials on purpose built chips for data centers.

Not so much the raw materials as the fab space/time, but yes.

We have pretty extensive history of how this goes; there have been a half-dozen DRAM crunches in the last ~40 years. What always happens is that prices explode, manufacturers build out massive new capacity (which takes years, and as fabs have gotten more complex it takes more years), then all the new capacity goes into production at about the same time and RAM prices crater.

And we're definitely seeing the same processes at work this time. Between Samsung, SK Hynix, TSMC and Micron there's almost a trillion dollars of new fab construction going on right now. When all of that comes on line, it's going to provide a massive boost to output... and RAM prices will almost certainly drop precipitously, losing all of the recent gains plus whatever normal decline we'd have expected, plus some more.

When? Probably around 2030. 2029 if we're lucky, though we might see a little softening by 2028. Definitely not this year and almost certainly not next year.

It could happen faster if the AI bubble bursts before then. I wouldn't hold my breath.

Comment Re:A small effect [Re:DEI is to blame] (Score 1) 140

You seem to be arguing that racist policies are acceptable if they have only a 1% affect against the discriminated against population.

This is the same argument made back in the day regarding pollution - as long as it is diluted, it's not important enough to pay attention to. 500000 ppm of CO2 is a real danger. 500 ppm of CO2 is a really small number, and we can safely discount it.

It's perhaps an uncharitable way of characterizing your observation, and maybe that's all you're doing - making an observation without a moral judgement.

Comment Re:Yeah... (Score 1) 110

If we got rid of 90 percent of humanity, or returned to hunter gatherer ways, we wouldn't need to worry about airplanes or houses or overeating.

Or if, you know, we developed ways to generate and use that don't produce carbon dioxide emissions, and ways to capture CO2 from the atmosphere and sequester it, then we wouldn't have to slaughter billions and return to a subsistence lifestyle.

Can we maybe try a carbon tax for a couple of decades first? We can always do the murdering later. Given the birthrate trends, if we wait a century the population will crash without doing anything.

Comment Re:That desperate for press leading into IPOs? (Score 1) 70

I think you have a very generous view behind the true motives of these disclosures. The "let's do it safely" train left about 2 years ago.

Until the AIs have actually taken control there's still room to try to figure out how to align them with humanity. I suspect we are running out of room, though. Fast.

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