Comment Re:sure thing uberbah, everyone believes you. (Score 1) 161
The reality is that if Russia launched nuclear missiles at the U.S., the U.S. would wipe them off the map.
What appear ignorant of is that during the cold war the US/NATO defense of Western Europe depended on immediately using nuclear weapons against a conventional invasion by the Warsaw Pact. Despite the fact that the Soviet Union could wipe the US off the map. That is why when Gorbachev and Reagan agreed that "a nuclear war cannot be won and much never be fought", they also acknowledged that a conventional war involving the Soviet Union and NATO was equally unacceptable. Reagan was not agreeing we wouldn't use nuclear weapons to defend Europe against a conventional attack.
Lets be clear, Russia using nuclear weapons in Europe is not "suicidal". As De Gaulle allegedly pointed out when the US complained about France developing their own nuclear capacity, "Are you going to sacrifice Washington to punish an attack on Paris? If De Gaulle was uncertain of the answer then, Russia is likely willing to take the risk that the answer is "No" if the stakes are high enough. But if US unsuccessfully responded by attempting to "wipe Russia off the map" before it could launch its missiles, that would be all but suicidal.
I was explicitly talking about what would happen if Russia launched nuclear weapons specifically at the United States, not an arbitrary non-nuclear NATO country.
NATO would still be obligated to retaliate in an attack on other NATO countries, whether nuclear or otherwise, and Russia's military would still almost certainly lose very badly and very quickly, given their current levels of force depletion, but I do agree that it would probably not involve a nuclear response. It wouldn't need to.