This is exactly it. In addition to compliance, when a breach happens, people will ask what measures did you have in place to limit or prevent this, "I have linux and therefore am a god in security, and I have no need for antivirus" does not work when you've been breached. But "I had anti virus on the systems, they failed to detect and prevent this!" does work.

We use both in production here; but, let's be VERY CLEAR: there is absolutely NO FAIR COMPARISON between a locally hosted model on above-average hardware and what Anthropic (and I assume others) is offering with their, currently, subsidized plans.

I am sure you know this and are just trying to shit on the editors, as one does on /.; but here, use this in case you didn't know: https://xcancel.com/_lyraaaa_/...

https://www.cs.wisc.edu/2025/0...

And DARPA has a whole program for it:

https://www.darpa.mil/research...

", so you already need your driver's license in most states, so you probably. have to have your wallet. "

Uhm my drivers license is also on my phone.

Knowing how not to do a thing is also valuable. But just in general there were lots of emails, Strtegy documents, etc that would be valuable as how to make this thing even if the data inside is bad or the decision made on it was bad. Plus the customer info is valuable. Spirit tried to maximize extra purchases while keeping low initial costs. It failed eventually but the internal metrics at what was working and what was not would be very useful. They didn't immediately fail.

Makes sense, early internet there were all of these free or discounted things you could get just by signing up and giving some info away, The value was usually 10 cents, Minus the crazy offers like $50 coupons from Buy.com or other loss leaders to get attention.

Humidity is currently 91% in Yangsan.

IDK man, there is one type of person that complains about being unfairly targeted wit these bans. If you got banned, its probably obvious. I mean have you seen the shit they didn't ban people for?

Yeah pretty much thats true of the definition people currently use. However, come on, Elon obviously hates Africans more than any other race. I don't know how you could think otherwise and maintain any intellectual honesty. But if you're sucked into what ever name we've given Elon acolytes, then that would make more sense.

City Council member of a non-listed Twin Cities suburb I know:

FBI is involved. Most water systems use one of two control/alert systems that are old and make them easy targets.

All they did was shut down components of the systems e.g., wells/sewer lift stations. Most cities were able to cycle manually to get back up and running. There was not messages warning or ransom of which I am aware.

They could have done a lot more damage if they wanted to, rather than just shutting things down.

I live in Plymouth; there was no city communications about this nor did I see any issues. So, I assume there were no physical disruptions to service.

Yeah, but that will happen with your Kodak scooter and Bell and Howell Fire extinguisher too, which are the same exact products

Sometimes I just want to look for stuff made by brands I want because I'm doing something somewhat professional and need the name brand to not be SHJWEHAS or I'll get made fun of relentlessly. Its the cost of being accepted and getting work sometimes. You over pay for the hammer to communicate something to the other people you're swinging it with. I don't like it, but I can't change it.

Ugh, I agree with you in general, but forks that go in mouths.... of ... kids... You don't care what those things are made of ? At all? Thats where you lose me. But I'll buy a flash light or screw driver from WE*(H(*@#!HUW#QEUGHGFSWUIHSGE for $5 delivered same day.