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I have been reliably told that due to the US invasion, life for the average Iraqi is hell on earth, compared to the bliss under Saddam's reign. It would appear that some Iraqis didn't get the memo. Life in Iraq is normal. Maybe not normal by American or European standards, but certainly for a country barely out from under the thumb of a bloodthirsty tyrant.

See The film.

Oh, and a shout out to Richard for either the best troll, or the best paranoid rant of the week! Depending on how much hyperbole you were engaging in. The Evil republicans are coming after the pure as the driven snow Democrats. Gotta love it. Love the smell of paranoid warnings of Brown Shirts in the Morning. Smells like last ditch desperation.

Oh, and best line "deep in the bowels of the Democratic party" :-)

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  • I heard about the film on NPR, sounds really interesting... I'll have to watch it.
    • Sir:

      There have now been about twenty times more civilian deaths in Iraq during the 18 months since the invasion [pressaction.com] than bodies uncovered and attributed to politial murders attributed to the regime of Saddam Hussein. It's not just "pressaction.com" -- the research is from The Lancet [washingtonpost.com].

      Have you sworn that oath they make soldiers take, that "normal" -- as you put it -- is whatever you have been told to do? There is a higher law, within you and almost everyone.

      Just because I pay taxes, you do not have my permis
      • You know, the funny thing about your stand is that you're for the person who willingly went in and killed thousands of his own people, just as the suicide bombers do today. I've been sworn several times [airforce.com]and now have a commissioning. Do you want to show me where the word "Normal" is in the oath? Your statement reeks of ignorance, as military members are not told to, "just do what you've been told to do." If you're an E-1 with no clue, sure, but everyone is taught how to do their job and then it's up to th
        • you're for the person who willingly went in and killed thousands of his own people

          False dichotomy. It is logically possible to oppose both the US and Saddam.

          • Well they seem to be the only two that want to mold the future of Iraq. The French tried organizing a anti-government (the current interim gov) but it collapsed. The Germans won't touch that place with a 1000 foot pole. The local population is slow at showing a pension for self rule...so who are you implying? The Middle East seems to be either blind, oblivious or something else close that makes them ineffective. Then again, they have been unable to negotiate with Israel either...

            Using your own false d

            • The local population is slow at showing a pension for self rule

              On what do you base this conclusion? They've never been given anything remotely like an opportunity to demonstrate their penchant for self rule (or lack thereof).

              In general, I object to the idea that when faced with a conflict between two forces, you have to side with one or the other, and if you oppose one, you are supporting the other. Saddam is out of power in any case, so there's no point in supporting him anyway. There is, however, a po

              • On what do you base this conclusion? They've never been given anything remotely like an opportunity to demonstrate their penchant for self rule (or lack thereof).
                I base it on historical events and on observations of various reports from non-partial news organizations. They're tough to find, but PBS and BBC are usually good sources. I didn't mean it as a slight to the Iraqi people. You don't go from a dictatorship to full self rule in a year...or at least not efficiently. It took awhile for the Germans
      • That's just disrespectful. I'm ashamed to have you on my side of the argument about the war.

        The foolish, unnecessary war in Iraq is a result of poor strategic vision and narrow-mindedness on the part of the current administration. This is not the soldiers' fault, yet here you abuse them for it.

        The poor sods on the front lines volunteered to fight to protect us; they have made us a gift of their own liberty and blood. Whether the administration uses these gifts badly or well, the givers do not have the opt
  • Oh, I think the real troll is this comment [slashdot.org], rather than the JE itself, but who I am to say? I'm due back in the bowels in a couple of hours.

    By the way, while I have your attention, I meant to thank you for the kind words [slashdot.org] about the Corps. A very high proportion of the finest people I know are/were in the Corps. Your observation is right on.
  • I suspect both sides are engaging in dirty tricks this year. I doubt it's officially-sanctioned by either side, though.

    It seems to be that in general, the left is worried about people being wrongly denied their vote, whilst the right is worred about people being wrongly allowed to vote.

    I'm not sure which kind of fraud I think is worse... I guess that makes me a centrist. :-)
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      • You're being too nice.

        Well, I am trying to be a moderate. :-)

        I suppose you're probably right, but I'm trying not to start a flamewar. Since I can't really be balanced on this issue, I'm being nice instead.

        While I have lots of links for the right's fraud, I haven't seen any credible stories of the fraud that I assume the left perpetuates, but I imagine it's happening. Of the two types of fraud I talked about, the kind perpetrated by the right is more visible, because it involves the court system directly
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          • The whole concept of prisoners voting is a little iffy no matter if you make the fine point argument of 'felon vs misdemeanor' or 'PA doesn't have a statute denying felons the right to vote', neither of which I know to be true or false. It just looks bad.

            Imprisonment is one kind of punishment. Disenfranchisement is another. There is no national standard on the issue; its up to the states.

            "Thirteen states permanently deny the right to vote to at least some citizens who have completed sentences for felony
          • The Democrats have registered a lot more people in Ohio than the Republicans. Somehow, in some counties in Ohio, there are more registered voters than legal residents who are eligible to vote, by tens of thousands. That looks pretty bad too.

            My favorite is the misprinted ballot that shows the wrong number/line for voting for Bush. The Democrats say, well, it was a misprint, an accident, can't blame the Democrats. Yet these same Democrats said that ballot problems that supposedly hurt Kerry in Florida we
  • I'll have to watch the video, your text blurb links to a townhall rant on McCain/Fiengold... but saying a country is normal, all things considering, when it's still in the beginning years of reconstruction, is still saying it's a shithole.

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