Wish I could mod you up. I agree with your assessment that the 2 movies were good movies IFF they changed the names of the characters and the Title of the movie. So make it Star Ship Battles - "The Search for MORE Money" starring Capt Krush, First Officer Shock, etc. and it would have been a playful, satirical bash of Star Trek much like Galaxy Quest with Tim Allen, Sigourney Weaver, etc.
Instead we have a "Star Trek" universe that JJ has TOTALLY F*&*ed up where people can use the transporter to get anywhere in the galaxy, super-magically powerful "Red Matter", lame plots and passable acting etc. etc.
You don't NEED star ships anymore because of the awesome transporter. Additionally, if someone with a spaceship DOES come at us we'll just transport photon torpedoes, nuclear warheads etc right into the oncoming ship and watch it explode like some massive firework. Hell we could keep asteroids from hitting the planet by using the same transporter technique.
So the next movie will be what??? Save (insert member of the main characters), Save the Whales (pick your species), Find God at the center of the Galaxy, or some other Star Trek movie because no one can come up with something original (that fits within the Star Trek Universe).
Here's the plot for any new movies with the Star Trek name...
Uh Oh... Something's happening with So and So on Planet Z where God is...
Ok, send 2 dozen Space Marines (via transporter) to Planet Z.
Check it out, kill what needs to be dealt with, save So and So, and say hi to God.
End of Movie.
Even WORSE, now JJ is going to F*&* up the Star Wars franchise. Granted I don't know if JJ can do worse than Old George did with E1 through E3, but I'm not wasting money to see it in the theaters.
Just Sad. I think Yogurt said it best when describing the sequel to Space Balls 2 "The search for more money".