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Whose box you checkin'?

A) George W Bush

B) John Kerry

C) Other*

*and let's face it. America is a two party system. Let's not pretend. Besides, I don't feel like listing all 9,458 crackpots who are running against the other two.

So, if you are gonna vote C, can you list who it is? (ie C, Nader)....or whatever.

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  • I like crackpots as much as the next person, but I prefer my president to wear a bunny suit.
    • I like crackpots as much as the next person, but I prefer my president to wear a bunny suit.

      Would you vote for Frank? [aol.com]

      oops, wrong link. [frankandbunny.com]
      Try this one.

      (Can't believe that was the top link for a google for Frank Bunny.)
      (What's the world coming to?)
      (The end of the world?)

      (No, I refuse to link Frank with anything but the one true frank. It would have been funny but I'll change the links around. You'll get the joke.)

  • B) (Score:2)

    by einstein ( 10761 )
    'cause "Strength and Wisdom are not mutually exclusive"
  • SamTheButcher because he needs a job and is probably better at leading the country than either of those idjits ;-)
    • I'm sorry sorry, this is Abuse. ;)

      Good ole JtS. How's the weekend going?
      • Abuse? You know damn well that I'd vote for Sam (or Em) if he wa running for Prez. Alas, I can't vote.

        Weekend starting good, sipping on some good Portugese wine and SmilingGirl is pulling on my shirt that we should spend some time together on the terasse ;-)
        So long, I'll be watching stars ;-)))

  • Nader [slashdot.org]/Camejo [slashdot.org]

    Fight the norm.
  • Hellboy.

    Awe shit! Wrong Journal.
  • C -- Other
    Michael Peroutka [peroutka2004.com]
  • but leaning towards Badnarik [badnarik.org].

    Kerry's starting to grow on me tho, like a fungus or a cancer. I blame my youth.
    • Hell, yeah. I'm at this point unable to vote for either Kerry or Bush, and I really don't want to vote against someone just to keep them out of office. I want to vote for someone.
    • but leaning towards Badnarik.

      Apart from the military side, he seems to be an exact match for my views. He'd certainly be great as President - or more likely, he'd be an obstacle to "business as usual" and make veto overrides a daily event, but he'd still shift the balance firmly in the right direction.

      Kerry's starting to grow on me tho, like a fungus or a cancer. I blame my youth.

      There's a good spray you can get to shift that ;-)

  • no need to post reasons, i've done that elsewhere
  • Write in votes rule!

    In all honesty, I'd probably do the 'Bush' thing, but I'm not 100% behind either voter. The only way I'd be 100% behind one is if Bush dropped Cheney for McCain.

    In 4 years, though, I'm voting McCain, and he'll win by a landslide.
    • I will be casting a write-in for the (as yet non-existant) McCain/Powell ticket. Several people I know are doing that as well. I'd like to see McCain get at least .5% of the total vote just to show how much support he really has.

      -AB
    • In 4 years, though, I'm voting McCain, and he'll win by a landslide.

      You presume that the Bible-thumper wing of the Republican Party won't do a repeat of South Carolina on him, writ large.

      IOW there is no guarantee that McCain would survive the primaries to make it to the Big Show. Some other candidate more appealing to the hard right might well defeat him -- again.

      Cheers,

      Ethelred

  • I know I really should register, and I'm going to try before the election rolls around. But I haven't been registered since college.

    If I were voting though it would be Kerry. Honestly, other than a handful of issues, I don't see a whole lot of difference between the two parties, especially on foreign policy. Other than a couple of social issues, primarily abortion, and I guess a few environmental issues, what's the difference between the two.

    As far as I can tell, on most domestic issues the difference is

  • Though if they can get electronic voting up and running, I will be voting for each of the recently deceased and for myself.

    Heheheheheh

    Oh wait, Did I think that or say that...

    jason
    • I fear for the world's future (not just ours) if Kerry gets elected. His record scares me. While things aren't exactly going his way right now (no bounce from his veep pick and most likely no bounce from the "Reinvention Convention"), it's far too early to say that anybody has it in the bag.
    • if they can get electronic voting up and running, I will be voting for each of the recently deceased

      Alright!

      Things are looking up for my campaign this year! :)

      Nixon! Nixon! Nixon! Nixon!
  • No reason to go off half cocked when the election is ~three months away. I'm happier to watch the debates, the continued stumping and planking.

    Now I will vote. That is just mandatory. But I'm happy to not bite right at this moment.

  • WAFFLE!!

    I don't really want another 4 years of Dubya, but Kerry seems to do flip-flops on the issues.

    How is it we wind up voting for the lesser of two evils???

    ^_^

    • How is it we wind up voting for the lesser of two evils???

      You'd rather vote for the greater evil? ;-)

      I'd prefer voting on issues directly, in a lot of cases (like the "Proposition" system) - but choosing between two positions in an election seems to be much more effective than, for example, the British system. Mr Blair, for example, is currently Prime Minister thanks to the votes of 41% of the population! In addition, he has a majority of the House of Commons, which has the power to override the House o

      • You'd rather vote for the greater evil?

        A lot of people like Cthulhu [cthulhu.org] for president.
        If you don't want to get quite that even, however, you could always vote for me.

        Anyone think I got a shot at being Cthulhu's running mate?
        Or would "W" have a better chance?
    • Flip flops? As opposed to Bush [americanprogress.org]?^-^

  • Eh? A (Score:2)

    by Servo ( 9177 )
    Do I think Bush is a great President? Hell no. But, I think he's the better than Kerry would be, and actually has a chance to win versus several 3rd party candidates which I think would do a better job than Bush or Kerry.
    • I don't understand that, why do people want to vote for a "winner" instead of the best person for the job? I don't think Kerry would be a great President, but I think he'd do a better job than Bush. That doesn't mean I'm going to vote for him.

      I'd rather vote with good conscience than vote for "the Winner". But don't blame me... I voted for Kodos.
      • I used to think the same thing, but reality set in. If the person who's best for the job has no chance of winning, I'd rather vote for the lesser of two evils.

        Ross Perot supporters caused Clinton to be elected when more people voted AGAINST him than FOR him. It is arguable that Ralph Nader supporters did the same thing in 2000. People aren't willing to vote 3rd party right now, because they are too scared that the other ideology will win if they don't vote for one of the two parties.
        • I tried the pragmatic thing this election, but when both sides are the same with minimal difference, I can't get up the effort to support the "lesser" evil. If everyone worried about voting for the best person, rather than worrying about who their neighbors are voting for, and whether your candidate has a chance, we wouldn't be in this mess.
          • For the record, I voted for Harry Browne in 2000.
          • It seems to me that if you can't bring yourself to support one of the two actual candidates, then your political views are probably so far out of the mainstream that your preferred candidate will never be elected anyway.

            Maybe you need to take a long, hard look at your values and tweak them as necessary.
            • Excuse me for having views and values that mainstream candidates can't live up to. If either party could produce better candidates, I'd be happy to announce my full support behind them.

              Jackass.
              • This society is based on consensus. We elect our representatives by consensus, our representatives make our laws by consensus. If you can't find enough people who share your fucked-up, whacked-out ideas that you can get together in one place and elect a representative who's as messed up as you are, then you do not get representation. Your views will not be heard because there are too few people who think like you.

                When your views are so utterly out of the mainstream that you can't even get a Congressman ele
                • Conversely, if you compromise your ideas, then you aren't being represented either. I have no problem with compromise in general, but the choice is between Bush and Bush-lite. You're telling me that I should stay home and not be heard, rather than voting for someone who has no chance of winning? I'd rather vote with my conscience for someone who is can distinguish themselves from the incumbent by means other than "My name isn't George Bush".

                  And a vote not cast for Bush is a vote for Kerry. The spoiler argu
                  • Conversely, if you compromise your ideas, then you aren't being represented either.

                    I don't think I agree with that: when you vote for whichever option is closer to your beliefs, you are influencing things in that direction. This is a problem in English, with "compromise" having two meanings - one negative, the other not: reaching a compromise is not a bad thing! It's like having a train on tracks at an angle to where you want to go: pushing directly towards your goal may have more psychological appeal,

                    • If I were somehow able to choose the next President myself, I'd go for Badnarik - but I can't. The question then becomes how best to influence things in that direction - vote for him, knowing that won't make a real difference, or vote for the closer of Kerry/Bush (in this case, clearly Bush) knowing that has more effect?

                      The simple answer to anyone wanting a third party in America is this: you gotta start somewhere.

                      If you really want to support the Libertarians because you genuinely believe in what they

                    • Tell other people about them and engage them in debate, and hopefully eventually the Libertarians (or whatever party you support) will indeed challenge the other two. After all, it's happened before that a third party displaces one of the other two, and there have been periods when a substantial third party managed to exist for a time in American politics. It can happen again.

                      Apparently, the Libertarian Party already holds more elected offices than all other 'third parties' combined - so it's not necessar

                  • Conversely, if you compromise your ideas, then you aren't being represented either.

                    You're a fool. Government of the people and by the people is founded on the basis of compromise. To seek compromise is the highest calling.

                    You're telling me that I should stay home and not be heard, rather than voting for someone who has no chance of winning?

                    No, I'm telling you that your responsibility as a voter is to join one of the two political parties and to participate in the process. If you differ with the party
                    • So I'm foolish because I expect the government to abide by the rules and compromises that we've set out for it? Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans respect the Constitution, which is the greatest compromise between the good of "society" and the rights of the individual. Why should I compromise further?

                      And since it's my responsibility to choose one of two parties, is it all right with you, sir, if I choose the Whigs? I'm sorry, but I'm not answerable to you for my vote - and a choice between two parti
                    • Neither the Democrats nor the Republicans respect the Constitution

                      And you're a Constitutional scholar, are you?

                      And since it's my responsibility to choose one of two parties, is it all right with you, sir, if I choose the Whigs?

                      What part of "one of the two" was unclear?

                      and a choice between two parties which are identical except for three or four issues which aren't important to me is not a choice

                      So you've managed to demonstrate your ignorance of matters Constitutional and of the parties' platforms.
                    • Comment removed based on user account deletion
                • I have an idea. Let's eliminate all parties but one -- in that case, everyone can get representation! Also, no votes are "thrown away," as you can be sure that your party will win (because everyone shares your idea(l)s). And if there's something you don't agree with, then there's always the possibility to work within the party to reach a consensus. It's fucking perfect: government for the people and by the people! It's such a perfect plan that it's a wonder noone has thought of it before!

                  Oh, wait. They hav

                • Meanwhile, yes, please vote for Elmo the Muppet or whomever you feel best represents your crazed delusions. Because every vote that's not cast for Kerry is a vote for Bush.

                  But what if you are a conservative who wants Bush out of the White House, but thinks John Kerry is the Anti-Christ?

                  If I vote for Michael Badnarik is that still a vote for Bush?

                  What if I get all my conservative friends who don't have their heads completely up their asses to vote for Michael Badnarik?

                  Heck, what if all the Libertarian
                  • But what if you are a conservative who wants Bush out of the White House, but thinks John Kerry is the Anti-Christ?

                    Please stay home and don't vote. The sooner we get this "blankety-blank is the anti-Christ" shit out of our political discourse, the better off we are.

                    If no Canidate gets a majority of the electoral votes the Senate votes for president.

                    The House.
  • All y'all need to go to C-SPAN and watch the President's campaign stop in Springfield, Mo., this morning.

    For some reason, I can't make an actual hyperlink out of the link to the video, so here's cut-n-paste.

    rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/c04/c04073004_b u sh rally.rm

    It's just under an hour long, and the President takes the podium at about 8:30 into it after the introduction and all that. So it'll cost you about 50 minutes of your life to sit through the best campaign speech I've personally heard in proba

  • B) (Score:2)

    by Ra5pu7in ( 603513 )
    Mostly because there isn't a third alternative I would willingly choose and I'm definitely not giving Bush four more years (even if I would like him to be unable to blame problems on his predecessor).

    I just realized I'm actually old enough to run for President myself. Maybe I should just write myself in. Of course, I'm not so sure I want all that dirty laundry aired. :P

  • B) Kerry (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Ethelred Unraed ( 32954 ) * on Friday July 30, 2004 @06:51PM (#9848843) Journal
    ...being that I am a loyal member of the Anybody-But-Bush Party.

    Or, more accurately, the Anybody but Rumsfeld, Cheney and Ashcroft Party.

    Aw, who am I tryin' ta kid. I'm a loyal member of the Make Ethelred Emperor Party (MEEP).

    Cheers,

    Ethelred


  • Not much to say.

  • Vote for Dubya here. And, I suspect come November, my choice will remain unchanged. (Well, ok, it's more than suspicion...I know it'll be unchanged.)

  • I refuse to try to pick the lesser of the two evils. I inherently distrust the democrats due to my fear of big brother, however I think Bush has fucked up enough to warrant his removal. Either way is the wrong way as far as I'm concerned. I will vote for my local officials, senators and whatnot, however, I am NOT going to be responsible for either of those idiots making it into the office of highest power in the United States.
  • I consider myself a McCain Republican. The GOP is no longer my party, its now the party of the Religious Right. When the party nominates a candidate not beholden to them and the Neocons I'll take a look at the candidate they're running then.

    BTW, if you are interested in tracking how the public polls are going on this question, I highly recommend electoral-vote.com [electoral-vote.com] they provide the latest poll data for each state and project the electoral vote total that would result 'were the election held today.' The

  • Not voting for Kerry (and my vote in MA won't count for the obvious reason, though even if I were in Iowa, I'd vote for Badnarik over Kerry or Bush), but I've outlined my reasons why I'm pulling for him this year.

  • I choose C and I will be voting for Bozo the Clown. He's better then anyone who is chosing to run!
  • Hmm, let's see. The Centre Party are a bunch of populist hypocrites gathered around an authoritarian maniac; there's no way i'm gonna vote for them. The Estonian People's Party are out of question, too, for pretty much the same reasons. Res Publica? No, thanks. They are not a party, they are a product; what they're selling -- the "new politics," they call it -- is just a lot of empty words about "strict order" and "zero tolerance." Some have likened their rhetorics to a pre-war pro-nazi party; this comparis

  • Because A and C are not an option.

  • I can't vote in a presidential election you insensitive clod!


  • I have experienced enough in the last 4 years to know better.

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