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Comment Re:maaaan (Score 2) 382

From Comeys mouth ducing the press conference.

From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the State Department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret at the time they were sent; 36 of those chains contained secret information at the time; and eight contained confidential information at the time. That's the lowest level of classification.

So. Yes there was stuff that was done retroactively, but the director of the FBI made it really clear that hundreds of emails were Classified, Top Secret or Confidential at the time they were sent or received.

Comment Re: just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

I do not want to destroy government.
I want to destroy the establishment.

(vague, unproven things proven on twitter)

What vague unproven things on twitter?

From the group of 30,000 emails returned to the State Department in 2014, 110 emails in 52 email chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret at the time they were sent; 36 of those chains contained secret information at the time; and eight contained confidential information at the time. That's the lowest level of classification.

That?

This is vague and unproven shit on Twitter?
You can decide your vote however you want. If you think that Clinton, Sanders, Johnson, Rubio, Cruz, Bush, or anyone else with a vested interest in the Letter D or R is going to fix shit, you are deluded. Their power does not come from fixing shit. It comes from pointing at broken shit and blaming it on others.
All they want is power for that class. Both the Dems and the Republicans are in that class.
I never called for the destruction of Government, I do not think it is a good idea. Though its powers need to be curbed on the federal level and that power needs to get transferred back to the States and local governments.
I know what Clinton is in government for, and I am against it.
I have no idea why Trump is running, I can guess, but I do not know.

To me it is either vote for what I know is the same shit we had with Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, and Obama with a Clinton 2 OR
Try something different.
You go right ahead and think that a win for Clinton 2 will change the way things are done.

Comment Re: just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

Not talking about Trump, and I have already allowed that if people choose Hillary that is their absolute right.
Not. About devices.
11 Blackberries in succession. Now they will not, even under direct questioning really answer if there was overlap, which is likely because of the fact that she had 2 phone numbers for that period of time it is likely that she had 2 devices. Not going to push that hard though, because we do not have to. She also, during that time used 3 iPads to do email.
I find it almost impossible to believe that when she had the iPads that she discontinued use of any Blackberry on her 2 phone numbers. Her testifying to congress that the reason for the private email was to consolidate to a single device in demonstratively false.
She lied. If you think that she is still a better choice than Trump, more power to you. Again. My problem is that you seem to need to believe that she did not lie about these things, when we have reports from the FBI that prove otherwise. She lied. Fact. If she would make a better President than Trump is an opinion.

Comment Re:just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

Intent. It was his opinion that there was no intent.
First and foremost. By law, intent is not needed to prosecute for mishandling of classified data.
Second, and to the point. He is not saying that Clinton did not Send or Receive Classified data. Only that in his opinion there was no intent.
In his briefing he went over how there was classified material sent and received.

So again. Point out one statement where he says it did not happen. Because in the report and the words that came out of his mouth during the press conference, he stated clearly that it did in fact occur.
Facts are a bitch.

Comment Re:just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

Where did Comey say there were no emails deleted?
(He did not.)

Where did Comey say that she only used one device at a time?
(He did not.)

Where did Comey say that no classified documents were sent or received by the private server?
(He did not.)


He never looked at any of the other things and made no statements about those at all.
Show me a single statement from Comey saying that nothing of that sort happened. Because in the FBI report and his press conference he stated that those things were true. He only stated that he did not recommend prosecution.

Did you get your facts from the report? From his press conference? Where did you even get the idea that he stated that none of that happened?
Where ever you got that info from should be stricken as a future place to get your facts. They did you wrong.

Comment Re: just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

She stated under oath to congress she used only one device for email.
She stated to the FBI that she used 13 devices.

How is one of these not a lie?


She stated multiple times that she never received nor sent classified emails over her private email server.
The FBI found and reported on classified (At the time they were sent or received.) emails found to have been sent from and received by that server.

Where are we speculating here? Is the fact that she lied about this not just a fact now?


We can go over them one by one. Or you could point to a statement that you think has not been proven. I just pointed out two really fast that can in no way be refuted. If you want to vote for Hillary, this is your constitutional right. Do not though try to hide behind wiggly words to pretend she does not lie.

Comment Re:just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

Which is why originally politics was to be of service. People who had already been successful and were able to take the hit that serving in congress would entail in order to serve the country and the people that made it possible.

Now we have people that want to be a politician for life. It does corrupt. If you think Sanders is immune, look into his statements of truth about Hillary while it was helping his career path to bash her and the statements when bashing her would hinder is political career.

Truth is not as important to him as his political career. That is evident by his turn around.

Comment Re:just one thing to say (Score 1) 611

That is funny.

We know that the emails were deleted by the ones they were able to recover. (Not speculation. Fact)
We know that she told the congress, under oath, that she used only one device. She told the FBI that she had used 13. (Not speculation. Fact)
We know that she stated that she had never sent nor received classified documents over he private email, Comey and the facts state otherwise. (Not speculation. Fact)
We know from the testimony of the parents that she told them that she would get the video guy for doing this.(Not speculation. Fact. Unless you are calling the parents liars.)
The State Dept access thing was not looked into at all by Comey. If though you look at who she met with, it is fairly obvious. Proving it in court might be more difficult though.
She did in fact not pass a single bill of substance as a Senator with her name on it. (Not speculation. Fact)
As for the last. This one IMO is more objective than subjective, but you can argue it. What region of the world do you think we ended up with a better relationship in or was more stable than before?


So. Again. Would you like to point out the holes in my argument or will your next awesome comment be, "Hillary says it's not TRUE!"
Because the words of people, when in direct opposition to known facts is not a viable argument.
You literally just spewed a statement that effectively refuted nothing in my previous statement. If you continue this path of argument, you will just be ignored.

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