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Comment Re:Many true statements, just like 1816, 1916, 196 (Score 1) 209

And 200 years ago, not everyone had the ability, skill, or desire to move to the city and just jump into manufacturing. 50 years ago not everyone had the ability, skill, or desire to just jump into operating the new electronic machines.

Skill? Most manufacturing jobs were deliberately reduced to easily repeatable steps that an average below high school educated person could accomplish. Just the sort of jobs to fit hordes of ill educated farmhands. Hardly the same as expecting someone to jump from a repetitive GED level job into college level computer engineering skill.

That's quite the point. When people no longer had to pick the cotton (making raw cotton less expensive), they could instead work making things with the cotton, a higher paying job. When the looms were automated (making textile products less expensive), people moved again to higher paying jobs. As the factories were automated, even less skilled people moved into office jobs - data entry, secretaries, customer service, etc. As secretarial, data entry, etc. was automated (making data-centered tasks less expensive), the entire information economy was created.

"Some" people moved up. The majority have shifted into whatever part-time McJob they can find to try to make ends meet.

Comment Re:He's right. (and has been for hundreds of years (Score 1) 209

You neglect that a) not everyone has the ability, skill or desire to just jump into programming b) programming can be automated too and c) the US government woefully neglects any attempts at job retraining, unlike European countries, mostly because every effort we've done towards job retraining since Carter was president has been cheap bandaid attempts rather than bottom up serious efforts.

You also gloss over that all of the farmers who were cast aside by automation were absorbed into the very factories we are now discussing being automated into non-existence. Also, simultaneously, millions of people employed in the trucking and taxi industry, including Uber, are facing the extinction of their jobs as automated cars take off. No, there will not be a rise in jobs servicing these cars either, as it's just as easy to develop an automated garage the cars just drive themselves into for service.

You can pretend all you like that new jobs will just pop out of the woodwork for these people but you're delusional. It's taken us 9 years to get back to the job growth we had before the last recession, our economy is not nearly robust enough to absorb the kind of jobless numbers we'll be seeing as automation really gets going.

Comment Re:Great and long overdue! (Score 4, Funny) 126

I wonder what negative slant the Obama haters will come up with for this one?

*ahem*...

THIS IS JUST MORE RAMPANT SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR CLAPTRAP PISSING ON MEN! WHERE ARE THE MEDALS FOR THE MEN WHO BUILT THE MACHINE"S THESE WOMEN USED HUH??? WHAT ABOUT THEM, OBUMMER!?!?!

These "programmers" were just punching holes in paper. My kids can do that!!! What did they do that was so great huh??? Adding 1's and 0's? Guess what, it's 1 you elitist snobs, now where's my medal???

Thank GOD we prayed on it and JESUS TRUMP is going to make AMERICA GREAT AGAIN by putting women back where they belong. Everything was better when women wore sexy skirts and brought you drinks at work then stood around waiting for you to grab them by the p***y. Now they're just GODLESS hairy legged ABORTION machines, carrying dead fetuses up in their vaginas and trying to be equal to MEN. They're all HARLOTS and GOD will strike them down like they deserve. NASTY WOMAN!!! THROW HER IN JAIL!!!

Comment Re:It's not silly. (Score 1) 540

And yet, costs for most manufactured goods are the lowest they have ever been right now when adjusting for inflation. Send. Elizabeth Warren has a nice talk on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Cars are better and cheaper
Clothes are more varied, better, and cheaper
Food is more plentiful, better, and cheaper
Entertainment is more plentiful and accessible
Computer technology has improved in capability exponentially while decreasing in cost.

Only three budget items are more costly now than they were in the 1970s: Housing, Education, and Health Care. All three of them are immune from normal market forces due to regulatory capture/government interference.

Cars are not cheaper. The price of a car has held fairly steady for decades and is starting to edge upwards.

Clothes are certainly more varried, and more cheaply made to the point that most people throw out clothes after a couple of washes rather than holding onto them for years, selling to second hand shops or passing them down to their kids.

Food is plentiful and cheap, and also reprocessed to death with tons of chemical additives, flavorings to replace what was lost in processing and cheap corn syrup. Food is demonstrably not 'better'.

I would argue that health care is better, but it definitely isn't cheaper, although once vastly complex procedures are now out patient surgery so it's probably moot. Pharmaceuticals, however, are definitely more costly than ever.

Comment Re:Click bait much? (Score 1) 171

1) Google is not a monopoly. If you even understood what monopoly means you'd realize this just looking at your computer where the desktop uses Bing or Cortana and you can download at least 4 browsers that use different search engines by default. They're not even a monopoly on phones because Apple.

2) It doesn't matter if scalping is "self evidently" wrong. It's against the laws of numerous states (IANAL but likely all 50).

Comment Re:I completely agree (Score 1) 805

In the real world these efforts are a multi-faceted problem, and one side can't be blamed if the scam artists you derp herders keep electing continually screw you over. I'd tell you to read a history book but they contain things like facts and Trumpies get triggered by those and start screaming persecution.

Comment Re:"Civic Society" not a very impressive euphemism (Score 1) 805

Yes, shame and insult and "other" us some more. As President-elect Clinton can confirm, that's a surefire way to get people to come over to your side.

You and your ilk have "othered" yourselves just fine over the last 8 years. From cries of "He's a muslim terrorist!" to "Where's his birth certificate!?!?!" to "Michelle is really a man and they kidnapped those kids!!" or "Obama's a tyrant and he's gonna steal our guns!!!", you've demonstrated that you are not in possession of an ability to assess reality like the rest of us. You've reviled and denigrated and spat on a man who won the popular AND electoral vote twice, and now you cry that we progressives are the ones tearing the nation apart. That WE need to get over it and accept your President.

Your conspiracy theories and loose interpretation of the truth have had Hillary investigated time and time and time again and they still verify she broke no laws, committed no treason but do you reconcile? Do you come over to our side? No, you double f**king down and scream "Throw her in jail!!!" for whatever fake story you choose to believe this time.

You spout ignorant racist misogynist propaganda for the better part of a decade and then cry out in shock that we took you literally. "Oh, we didn't REALLLY mean those words, it's just retoric! Believe what we mean, not what we say!"

F**k you and everyone like you.

Comment Re:I completely agree (Score 1) 805

The idea is you educate them here and send them back home so they can startup industry's there and effect political change that steers their home country more towards US political ideas and increases the number of their people who can buy our products. That's the payoff to our investment.

I understand that's a hard concept for the average Trumpie to understand but if you think about it really hard maybe you'll get it.

Comment Re:Reality (Score 4, Insightful) 95

You forgot to mention that while you're suing and lobbying to even string up your first wire they are spending months lobbying on their own and improving their own network so you aren't as competitive and otherwise undercutting you at ever turn.

It's exactly how cable ISP's fight municipal broadband. Sue and cry that it's unfair competition and while it's all rolling through the courts they're busy stringing wire and servicing customers long before the municipal can, undercutting their position.

This is one of those situations where we need a strong government to seize the utility poles and mandate fair and equal access for all.

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