So fix the filesystem?

You said that there is an immunity, citing wrong numbers. I refuted you with the actual content of the link that you dug out after quite some time to try and justify your incorrect original statement. The numbers in your link are lower and they state a "reaction" with yet unknown meaning and prevalence. It is possible that there is a background immunity, but your original statement was a lie. Then you changed the topic and I stated several good reasons for why a delay of the inevitable still has advantages, and that it might not be as inevitable anyway. Then you declare yourself to have been right all along. OK.

I see you are changing the topic. But anyways, death rates and otherwise bad outcomes are much much lower now at least in a significant part because Germany and others bought time for science as well as doctors and nurses in clinics to learn about the disease and how to treat it, even without a specific medicine or vaccination. If I had a choice to get it in March or now, I would choose now. And this will just continue, and if we are lucky there will be a vaccination early next year. Doesn't have to be perfect either, just work for some and lessen the body's reaction to the virus for many others. You people sacrificed hundreds of thousands of people because you could not be bothered to care for your neighbours for a few months.

Don't just look at the pretty pictures but read the text. And latest developments are not as great, Germany e.g. did very very well, and everyone was hoping for normality soon but in recent weeks the daily new infections rose to a level last seen in April and the local health authorities just reached the point where they can't keep up with follow-up of infected people and contact persons. It may well be that there is a previously unknown background immunity, after all the same thing happened with the swine flu, but the way you presented the numbers was simply wrong and we won't bet the house and life on it.

It says 20%-50% significant reactivity, not immunity in 50%. And it's 50% for US blood donors but 10-20% e.g. in Netherlands. This makes a significant difference in the order of tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands deaths if herd immunity is attempted.

Also, "These early reports demonstrate that substantial T cell reactivity exists in many unexposed people; nevertheless, data have not yet demonstrated the source of the T cells or whether they are memory T cells". It goes on that these findings have led to much unfounded speculation like yours, but "In conclusion, it is now established that SARS-CoV-2 pre-existing immune reactivity exists to some degree in the general population. It is hypothesized, but not yet proven, that this might be due to immunity to CCCs. This might have implications for COVID-19 disease severity, herd immunity and vaccine development, which still await to be addressed with actual data."

Next time find the source first, then read it, and THEN post

If you don't have a source, act like an adult and say so

Man, this data is of June 4. This happened since then: https://www.worldometers.info/...

Well I'm not the other guy, but it was a reply to an earlier post that had claimed that anyone with low oxygen is ventilated and that this was actually the problem. So the other guy corrected that post, saying that it's not just any low oxygen that gets you put on a a ventilator, but that it's used only when levels are very, dangerously low and the alternative is suffocation, while many other treatments exist for less low levels.

The first sentence maybe should not have been "Nobody puts people on ventilators just because they have low oxygen levels", but from then on it is IMHO very clear, but obviously it's only my interpretation.

Thank you

In March the knowledge was also not where it is today, at the time the thought was that contact contamination might play a bigger role than it actually did, and the opposite for drops and aerosols. And at least over here in Germany, virologists did not say that that masks don't help, just that there was no scientific evidence that they do, which is not the same thing.

It was not worded great, but this is what he meant if you read his whole post.

The concept was never sound because it should have been obvious from the start that it is impossible to isolate high-risk groups. They have relatives and caretakers of many kinds.

Belgium counts differently and classes every death that has remotely anything to do with it as a SARS-CoV-2 death.

Sweden has large changes of reported cases per day, e.g. on Monday after the weekend always very low, then higher on Tuesday when they catch up. So the 7-day moving average makes more sense in their case, and this is currently higher than ever and more than twice as high as it was in April and May after they had reached the plateau (from which they never descended like the other European countries did). These numbers are indeed very bad.

It has a different name because it is a similar but different virus that spreads differently (much easier and quicker) and causes similar but also different diseases.