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Comment Re:It's still plagiarism (Score 2) 40

I am not sure I agree. Some of what it does is grabbing facts and putting them into common language based on a request. The facts themselves are not plagiarized; they can even be corroborated between multiple sources.

Right, and there's a word for providing material that "can even be corroborated between multiple sources" without providing citation for those multiple sources. To quote myself where I addressed the scenario "As is, this appears to be insignificantly different from citing Google, Wikipedia, or Pinterest for works presented by those services."

The common language component is also not directly plagiarism (or even theft of style), if it is trained on a wide enough sample of data.

That falls into true some of the time, and false some of the time category. Paraphrasing and citing the paraphrasing tool, rather than the works being paraphrased, is still plagiarism.

Comment Re:Learning isn't plagiarism. (Score 1) 40

Any AI that produces output without sufficiently crediting the authors of the inputs it trained on is correctly regarded as an application that just speeds up plagiarism.

Any human intelligence that produces output without sufficiently crediting the authors of the inputs it trained on is correctly regarded as an application that just speeds up plagiarism.

correct, other than the application part

Thus if you read Shakespeare and write a sonnet, really Shakespeare should be credited and not you for learning how to write a sonnet.

Show me one AI that people are citing that's trained only on material that's out of copyright like Shakespeare and I'll accept I was wrong. One is enough.

Your view is in contradiction because the AI learns in the same manner as humans and we credit humans for their unique sonnets imitating the sonnets of others.

Nearly right, AI doesn't learn in the same manner as humans. In academia it's important to credit the originators of derivative works of copyrighted and material no longer under copyright alike so that peer review can be done. These fail to do so. Using AI as a black box that fails to indicate where the ideas came should be discouraged. Holding AI citations to the same minimal standards as a cited person is not a contradiction.

Comment It's still plagiarism (Score 1, Insightful) 40

Any AI that produces output without sufficiently crediting the authors of the inputs it trained on is correctly regarded as an application that just speeds up plagiarism. If there're any that correctly attribute the works produced I see nothing wrong with it, as they can then be peer reviewed. As is, this appears to be insignificantly different from citing Google, Wikipedia, or Pinterest for works presented by those services.

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